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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    But government at a state, and local level is still government, and tyranny, in this case denying SSM is still tyranny. You can't escape the fact that denying SSM rights is inherently wrong.
    True. We need government at some level but if we keep the stuff that directly impacts us at the level that we have the most access to we will always be more capable of
    holding that government accountable.

    One of the biggest reasons that our federal government is so horribly out of control right now is that we no longer hold properly them accountable (aside from a few well placed internet rants now and again). I mean, seriously, how much opportunity do you have to address your congressman much less get in there and really bend his or her ear on a particular matter? If you are like most of us that opportunity is little more than a pipe dream yet we still seem to vote for them based on stuff which can and does have a serious impact on our every day lives. Wouldn't it be easier if we could address those issues by heading downtown and attending a city council meeting or, if need be, having a little gathering on the street in front of the councilman's house?

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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    True. We need government at some level but if we keep the stuff that directly impacts us at the level that we have the most access to we will always be more capable of
    holding that government accountable.

    One of the biggest reasons that our federal government is so horribly out of control right now is that we no longer hold properly them accountable (aside from a few well placed internet rants now and again). I mean, seriously, how much opportunity do you have to address your congressman much less get in there and really bend his or her ear on a particular matter? If you are like most of us that opportunity is little more than a pipe dream yet we still seem to vote for them based on stuff which can and does have a serious impact on our every day lives. Wouldn't it be easier if we could address those issues by heading downtown and attending a city council meeting or, if need be, having a little gathering on the street in front of the councilman's house?
    How can we even begin to guess at what form of "government" is suitable, when most of our people are still living deep in the Dark Ages ?..........just wondering................

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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    How can we even begin to guess at what form of "government" is suitable, when most of our people are still living deep in the Dark Ages ?..........just wondering................
    How, then, do you define the "Dark Ages"? Those who disagree with your opinion?

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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    You can relax. Traditional marriage isn't going anywhere. Nobody is trying to take away a man's right to marry a woman or a woman's right to marry a man.
    This POV may constitute a strawman. I am not aware of anybody expressing a concern that someone is trying to take away a man's right to marry a woman or vice versa.

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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    How, then, do you define the "Dark Ages"? Those who disagree with your opinion?
    No. I define the Dark Ages as that time when Christianity finally succeeded in completely eradicating any knowledge available from the pagans........ie: post 600 AD......................

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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    How can we even begin to guess at what form of "government" is suitable, when most of our people are still living deep in the Dark Ages ?..........just wondering................
    Because way back in the "dark ages" the founding fathers of this nation laid the plan out in a document called the Constitution. Since then there has been no small amount of effort (even from some of the founders) to turn that document on its ear but, as luck would have it, there have also always been a bunch of folks who have fought tooth and nail to preserve it. Some days we come up a little short in our efforts but we will always be there and we will always do whatever we can to defend our charge.

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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    How, then, do you define the "Dark Ages"? Those who disagree with your opinion?
    Of course not, those who you disagree with are clearly "like Hitler."


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Because way back in the "dark ages" the founding fathers of this nation laid the plan out in a document called the Constitution. Since then there has been no small amount of effort (even from some of the founders) to turn that document on its ear but, as luck would have it, there have also always been a bunch of folks who have fought tooth and nail to preserve it. Some days we come up a little short in our efforts but we will always be there and we will always do whatever we can to defend our charge.

    Perhaps you could point out where the Constitution says anything about gay marriage. Or straight marriage for that matter.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Perhaps you could point out where the Constitution says anything about gay marriage. Or straight marriage for that matter.
    What is wrong with the people here ?...........

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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Perhaps you could point out where the Constitution says anything about gay marriage. Or straight marriage for that matter.
    It doesn't. That's pretty much the whole point of my position.

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