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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Why won't it work? Marriage, whether gay, straight, inanimate or agricultural wouldn't be an issue at all anywhere unless the locals chose to make it that way and although some communities might not choose to accept the practice others certainly would.

    There would no longer be "married" federal tax returns and the rest of the stuff would be a local issue.
    Because if one moved to several cities, those rules would be different.

    I thought this was quite obvious.
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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Because if one moved to several cities, those rules would be different.

    I thought this was quite obvious.
    Why should marriage bestow any benefits or penalties on a couple? If we get rid of this mentality, there would be no issues...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Traditional Marriage should be defended and upheld
    You can relax. Traditional marriage isn't going anywhere. Nobody is trying to take away a man's right to marry a woman or a woman's right to marry a man.

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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    You can relax. Traditional marriage isn't going anywhere. Nobody is trying to take away a man's right to marry a woman or a woman's right to marry a man.
    shhhhhhh dont ruin the fantasy that its in danger and needs protection
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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    How is expanding rights tyranny? How is allowing SSM harming straight people? That argument is so ridiculous I can't even believe people actually use it. Anti-SSM laws are tyranny, and it matters not whether they are brought on by the state, or the federal government, they are wrong either way, and should be brought down.
    You're still focused on the idea that the state can and should be the arbiter of rights. I'm suggesting that just like the right to self defense and free enjoyment of the fruits of ones labor these rights preexist the Constitution and that the state has no business being on one side of the issue or the other.

    Maybe what is confusing people is when I refer to "state". State with a capital "S" indicates one of the 50 territories in the US defined as States. State with a small "s" indicates a governing authority superior to the State.

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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Why should marriage bestow any benefits or penalties on a couple? If we get rid of this mentality, there would be no issues...
    Oh great, the first little bit of sanity in the last 40 posts has to come from a liberal....just my luck

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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Why should marriage bestow any benefits or penalties on a couple? If we get rid of this mentality, there would be no issues...
    Because the theocractic military state that arose after the ascension of Christianity to the throne of Rome, which became the model for all Western states since, needed a massive breeding population in order to provide the troops it needed to insure it could perpetuate it's disease.............Oh, the humanity................................

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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    You're still focused on the idea that the state can and should be the arbiter of rights. I'm suggesting that just like the right to self defense and free enjoyment of the fruits of ones labor these rights preexist the Constitution and that the state has no business being on one side of the issue or the other.

    Maybe what is confusing people is when I refer to "state". State with a capital "S" indicates one of the 50 territories in the US defined as States. State with a small "s" indicates a governing authority superior to the State.
    That is a naive way of looking at things. The state can govern away anything, and we must always be on guard to protect our freedoms from tyranny, and yes that includes SSM.

    And I understand the difference between States, and state, made an A in Advanced Government.
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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    That is a naive way of looking at things. The state can govern away anything, and we must always be on guard to protect our freedoms from tyranny, and yes that includes SSM.

    And I understand the difference between States, and state, made an A in Advanced Government.
    I didn't have you in mind with the State v state thing but congratulations on the "A" anyway.

    The state can only govern away the things we delegate to it so if we never delegate that authority or, in a case like this, take that responsibility back onto ourselves the problem is solved.

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    Re: SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I didn't have you in mind with the State v state thing but congratulations on the "A" anyway.

    The state can only govern away the things we delegate to it so if we never delegate that authority or, in a case like this, take that responsibility back onto ourselves the problem is solved.
    But government at a state, and local level is still government, and tyranny, in this case denying SSM is still tyranny. You can't escape the fact that denying SSM rights is inherently wrong.
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