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Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

MMC said:
Plus he is polling high in 7 other states. Still do you think he is big in the Midwest and out West?
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I don't think too many people know about Christie out there just yet, but he has time to make the appeal. At least he's more personable than Romney was.
 
0bserver92 said:
Our government is more efficient than yours and we have had three parties one Progressive Conservative, one Liberal, and one centre-left/socialist. We actually get stuff done it seems while the U.S. is always in a deadlock. I guess it also helps that when we reach a disagreement over a budget we go to elections.
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Yes, but aren't the Liberals in a deep identity crisis? Conservatives and NDP do present roughly opposite choices, vectors of development. Liberals are presenting....I'm not sure what, not having paid much attention lately - a fresh-faced clone of Trudeau?
 
MMC said:
Yeah, they have been saying we will Elect a Fat Man long before we Elect one with a Beard or Mustache.....guess the parties want clean shaven men. Oh and Women too. No hair-lip pieces. :lol:
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So that's why Hilary lost....
 
iliveonramen said:
I would make the argument that any canidate that Republicans put forth will have to at least be semi-popular in more liberal states. Christie has a much better chance winning Ohio, Wisconsin, Virginia, Michigan than say a Bobby Jindal or someone further right.
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Well.....hopefully this next time around. We wont allow Ohio to be a major deciding factor like this last time round. I am tired of Hearing whatever candidate needs Ohio to win the office of the Presidency. That without Ohio it can't be won.

I say we set up the Campaign this time and tell Ohio to STFU. We know which way they will Ride anyways. So they don't need to say anything as it's not even worth hearing. Might as well as start getting them use to the back of the Bus. Where we should make sure they are always sitting at.....from now on!
 
Cyrylek said:
Yes, but aren't the Liberals in a deep identity crisis? Conservatives and NDP do present roughly opposite choices, vectors of development. Liberals are presenting....I'm not sure what, not having paid much attention lately - a fresh-faced clone of Trudeau?
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I'm scared because Justin Trudeau might win because he just looks the best without having any of the skills of his father. His father was one of the greatest leaders of Canada defining many things we consider Canadian. Justin has nothing but being a pretty face and the party is a mess with no one agreeing on anything. The NDP and the Conservatives can agree on some things, unlike the U.S. they won't block anything just because it's Conservative or NDP. They also can find common ground on some social issues. I hope the NDP win the next election.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Check yourself, Cyrylek. Centrists? Cough , ough. .
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Yes, of course. Rubio is working on the immigration reform. Ryan and Jindal are making every effort to focus attention on fiscal issues, and sound more and more technocratic. They are the centrist block of the party - not libertarians, but not the "social conservative" statists either.
 
0bserver92 said:
Our government is more efficient than yours and we have had three parties one Progressive Conservative, one Liberal, and one centre-left/socialist. We actually get stuff done it seems while the U.S. is always in a deadlock. I guess it also helps that when we reach a disagreement over a budget we go to elections.
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"Deadlock" is a good place for government to be. Change should come very slowly after very much debate and deliberation. The Nazi's "got stuff done". How did that work out?
 
clownboy said:
Unfortunately, polling high almost two years before a mid-term and almost four years until a presidential election, counts for absolutely nothing.
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I think it is mostly East Coast States.....yeah and concerning the election you are correct. But even FNC and others are already up and asking those types of questions.
 
MMC said:
Progressive Conservatives.....and what is that suppose to be? Why should Progressive Ideology even be considered?
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Progressive Conservatives are more reasonable and are open to more Liberal ideas as well. Under Mulroney he wanted free trade, which is what he got but he also passed major environmental legislation as well. They are open to cooperation and when they see the need for something that would considered Liberal like environmental legislation they will listen.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
"Deadlock" is a good place for government to be. Change should come very slowly after very much debate and deliberation. The Nazi's "got stuff done". How did that work out?
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It shouldn't be, they should be able to come to a reasonable conclusion that is best for the country not staying firmly on their sides getting nothing done.
 
rocket88 said:
So that's why Hilary lost....
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but when was the last time ya saw her wears a dress or a skirt.....Just sayin! :2razz:
 
Wonder if they make him buy two seats on the plane. The guy is kind of huge.
 
MMC said:
Well.....hopefully this next time around. We wont allow Ohio to be a major deciding factor like this last time round. I am tired of Hearing whatever candidate needs Ohio to win the office of the Presidency. That without Ohio it can't be won.

I say we set up the Campaign this time and tell Ohio to STFU. We know which way they will Ride anyways. So they don't need to say anything as it's not even worth hearing. Might as well as start getting them use to the back of the Bus. Where we should make sure they are always sitting at.....from now on!
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Haha! I feel the same way with the swing states.
 
justabubba said:
why is this found insufficient?:

that was certainly enough to let me know that the OP believes this failure to receive an invite is the direct result of christie's lauding the president for his response to hurricane sandy
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Its a repetition of what others think with no commentary, opinions, or direction for the purpose of this thread. Also a drive by since the op has yet to follow up.
 
0bserver92 said:
Progressive Conservatives are more reasonable and are open to more Liberal ideas as well. Under Mulroney he wanted free trade, which is what he got but he also passed major environmental legislation as well. They are open to cooperation and when they see the need for something that would considered Liberal like environmental legislation they will listen.
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Anything wrong with Moderates? They would be more apt to agree and work on solutions.
 
Risky Thicket said:
If one had any doubts about where CPAC's head is I can answer in five words: Ryan, Perry, Palin, Paul and Santorum.
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Which would mean that the CPAC is heading into 5 different "directions"

Santorum and Paul are nearly opposite: a Religious Right statist vs. a raw libertarian.
Perry is a social conservative, but no crusader, and perefers to talk about low taxes in Texas.
Ryan is a fiscal conservative primarily interested in budget issues.
Palin is a clown.
 
Risky Thicket said:
CPAC featured speakers will include:

Romney
Rubio
Jindal
Jeb Bush
Rand Paul
Ryan
Palin (seriously, she's going to be a speaker at CPAC)
Perry
Santorum

As we can see, and not surprisingly, CPAC plans to play to the right of right and then pander to the extreme right from there. It's what lost the GOP their last election. It's same old, same old with the same message. It's going to have the same appeal as it has in the past, even less so, as more people, dazed and disillusioned, leave GOP as I did, as many of us did.

CPAC meanders like an old drunk to the same bar, to drink with the same people and suffer the same ills as in the past, while it blames its failures on everybody else.

Christie, at this point, doesn't fit in the list of losers above. If Christie really has big balls, he'll avoid the getting the stench of CPAC all over himself.

If the GOP is going to live, it's going to have to change. In fact, if the GOP is going to live, it's going to have to get the hell away from a lot of the speakers in the CPAC list above. Does Christie want to be mobbed up with that group? We will see.

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Well Breitbart won't be there, making a fool of himself and his party.
 
MMC said:
Anything wrong with Moderates? They would be more apt to agree and work on solutions.
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They dont have the Conservative lean though, progressive Conservatives still have that in other words they are still Conservatives while moderates are not.
 
iliveonramen said:
Haha! I feel the same way with the swing states.
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I am with you on that brutha.....Ohio, Iowa and Delaware. Although.....Rubio is way out in front on the game than Christie. Already Rubio has been making stops in Iowa and talking to Conservatives out there. Basically doing the same thing Obama did at the Grassroots level.
 
Cyrylek said:
Which would mean that the CPAC is heading into 5 different "directions"

Santorum and Paul are nearly opposite: a Religious Right statist vs. a raw libertarian.
Perry is a social conservative, but no crusader, and perefers to talk about low taxes in Texas.
Ryan is a fiscal conservative primarily interested in budget issues.
Palin is a clown.
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Cruz will be there from Texas. Plus I hear an invite was sent to Susanna Martinez. Hopefully this will help to draw more Hispanics in.
 
iliveonramen said:
I would make the argument that any canidate that Republicans put forth will have to at least be semi-popular in more liberal states. Christie has a much better chance winning Ohio, Wisconsin, Virginia, Michigan than say a Bobby Jindal or someone further right.
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Sshh! I know they'll never figure it out, but don't give them a clue.
 
clownboy said:
Unfortunately, polling high almost two years before a mid-term and almost four years until a presidential election, counts for absolutely nothing.
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You do have a point. I mean the Hermanator was leading in the polls at one point.
 
Cyrylek said:
I clearly called Jeb Bush "a solid moderate", and Rand Paul "an almost-libertarian". No?
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Rand Paulis is a flaming hypocrit and any and all derogatory words not allowed here.
 
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