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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Yes but they dont pay attention, so I thought I would ask the OP to try and make a substantial post. Im sorry that you took it personally.
    hell, i don't take anything here personally
    i'm a retired old fart just having fun
    but i saw nothing wrong with the OP's OP and explained why
    going to refrain from further posts about this in order not to derail the actual (interesting) on-topic thread discussion
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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    He is not a perfect messenger for libertarian ideas, but still he did speak for military cuts, against Patriot Act abuses - and speaking now, with Ron Wyden, against the drone program - to name only the aspects of libertarian politics a "progressive" should be pleased with.
    I agree that more leaders should speak out against military/patriot at abuses.

    The problem I see is that the Patriot Act was established under Bush. If you did not complain about it then, you look silly complaining about it now. Same thing with the ridiculous military spending. Republicans recently forced the military to buy tanks they did not want or need. I did not hear Rand Paul making a federal case out of that.

    While I can agree with some of Rand Paul's beliefs, his style is nauseatingly hypocritical. He is now happy to be sucking off a gov't and thinks his job is to make sure nobody else does.

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Chris is another McCain. He thinks he can get Dem voters by playing footsies with Dem's in DC.
    Not that I care about Chris Christie...because I really don't. But as the old saying goes...."All's fair in love, war, and politics." If there was an ounce of honesty among the monarchy which lives in the Kingdom of Washington, then I might feel a weeeee bit emotionally connected to our system of government and politics.

    As long as we, the electorate, continue to repeat the same voting behaviors over and over and over again...expecting different results. Need I say more? To our nation's political machines, we've become predictable, gullible, brainwashed, and divided by our nations political philosophies so much that we've allowed the government to become a self-will-run-riot entity.

    It doesn't really matter who does or doesn't speaks at CPAC. Or any other political rally regardless of the title or political affiliation, as far as that goes. The purpose of these organization...isn't about the welfare of our nation...its about them. These little organizations get together to help their brain trust create a new, improved KY Jelly.

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    hell, i don't take anything here personally
    i'm a retired old fart just having fun
    but i saw nothing wrong with the OP's OP and explained why
    going to refrain from further posts about this in order not to derail the actual (interesting) on-topic thread discussion
    Not to beat a dead horse, but I agree with you wholeheartedly. If you do not like a thread, stop posting in it unless the infraction is blatant.

    Another thing that gets my goat is people asking a thread creator why they post on that topic. I saw one thread where over 30 people asked the original poster in one way or another why he always want so talk about gun control.

    People should at least act like they have some class.

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post

    he is not well known. just as it did to Ron Paul four years prior, the GOP did everything possible to ensure that his brand of conservatism was not viewed by the onlooking public. but then you may be fond of the present GOP hierarchy and how it operates

    Ron Paul was NOT a major player he was just a loud baby crying about liberty and unfairness. He was a lot like Obama minus the liberty parts. The reason Gary Johnson didn't make any headway was precisely because only 2% of the population even knew who he was. Then, when Ron Paul failed in his conspiracy campaign to chop the GOP in half with liberty delegates, which we are still trying to clean up as it is. A few random paulbots went over to the Gary Johnson train solely because he was the only other option since Ron Paul wasn't officially on the ballot.

    If you think the GOP is divided the libertarians are even more so, I have yet to meet two libertarians who agree with anything the other says, unless if it's basic talking points. You say that Christie has no more of a shot? Well, Christie was one of the wild cards that some Republicans wanted in place of Romney. The Anybody but Romney crowd, were talking about random candidates jumping into the field; Donald Trump, Sarah Palin, and Chris Christie. Gary Johnson was never mentioned! That's not a conspiracy, that's because his ideas mainly his stance on drugs, did not appeal to Republicans!
    There's no greater irony than a Trump supporter pointing out hypocrisy; Unless it's Trump himself.

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Ron Paul has been successfully marginalized for some time now. Much like Nadar, both men helped the process along by gilding the lily (taking that bridge too far in some of their positions).

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by 66gardeners View Post
    I agree that more leaders should speak out against military/patriot at abuses.

    The problem I see is that the Patriot Act was established under Bush. If you did not complain about it then, you look silly complaining about it now. Same thing with the ridiculous military spending.
    Rand Paul hardly could "complain about it then" - he was not elected yet. His father certainly did, and how.

    And let me remind you what the vote was, back in 2001: the Senate passed the Patriot Act by 98-1. The day before, the House voted 357-66. This is hardly a partisan Republican sin.

    Paul is new. I like some of what he does, not everything. And he is certainly unpolished. But I'm prepared to be patient, without getting my hopes too high.

    At the risk of angering purists, I would say that for the first time in living memory, we have a visible libertarian-ish minority in both chambers. In the Senate, we have Paul, Mike Lee and Jeff Flake. Maybe Ted Cruz could be added, I'm not sure yet.

    This is not a bad development - not from the "progressive" POV either, I would guess.

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Rand Paul hardly could "complain about it then" - he was not elected yet. His father certainly did, and how.

    And let me remind you what the vote was, back in 2001: the Senate passed the Patriot Act by 98-1. The day before, the House voted 357-66. This is hardly a partisan Republican sin.

    Paul is new. I like some of what he does, not everything. And he is certainly unpolished. But I'm prepared to be patient, without getting my hopes too high.

    At the risk of angering purists, I would say that for the first time in living memory, we have a visible libertarian-ish minority in both chambers. In the Senate, we have Paul, Mike Lee and Jeff Flake. Maybe Ted Cruz could be added, I'm not sure yet.

    This is not a bad development - not from the "progressive" POV either, I would guess.
    Speaking as a democrat, I think Chris Christie is a good canidate, his leadership during hurricane sandy showed he really cared for the people of his state. He is a republican who If he wins the presidency I would not object to. I still would prefer govenor Andrew cuomo or former govenor Brian Schweitzer to win for the democrats, but I could tolerate christe.

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Speaking as a democrat, I think Chris Christie is a good canidate, his leadership during hurricane sandy showed he really cared for the people of his state. He is a republican who If he wins the presidency I would not object to. I still would prefer govenor Andrew cuomo or former govenor Brian Schweitzer to win for the democrats, but I could tolerate christe.
    Incredibly, we are inching toward a consensus here: I would prefer Gov Gary Johnson, or Gov Bill Weld, or Gov Chris Christie, but I could tolerate a DINO like Schweitzer or Cuomo.....

    (If you think that the Democratic Party of Pelosi and Reid is going to give Schweitzer or Cuomo Jr any real chance - ....Think again).

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by 66gardeners View Post
    Not to beat a dead horse, but I agree with you wholeheartedly. If you do not like a thread, stop posting in it unless the infraction is blatant.

    Another thing that gets my goat is people asking a thread creator why they post on that topic. I saw one thread where over 30 people asked the original poster in one way or another why he always want so talk about gun control.

    People should at least act like they have some class.
    Same goes for you. If you dont like my asking the OP to elaborate on the topic, then ignore me.

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