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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    It seems to me that he spoke out as soon as he decided to run for office.

    Back to my point about private citizens, are you going to provide the proof that you aren't a hypocrite who said one thing then but says another now? This is what you're saying about Rand Paul, so again, and since both you and he were private citizens at the time, I'd like to see your "proof" that you did indeed speak out. Maybe you can ask your friends to produce e-mails?

    Do you see the point? Private citizens don't usually speak to the media. They don't ordinarily write letters to the editor (although many people I know have), and so they don't have the proof you apparently require.

    The deal here is that you don't like Rand Paul and hope to assassinate his character by demanding "evidence" that he was on the "right side" of the PATRIOT Act debate from its beginning. Unless someone were a member of a political-activist group (e.g. some "Say No to the PATRIOT Act" group), you are holding Rand Paul to an unfair and unreasonable standard simply because you don't like him and his politics.

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    you are holding Rand Paul to an unfair and unreasonable standard simply because you don't like him and his politics.
    Oh NOs People holding politicians that they don't like to an unfair and unreasonable standards simply because they don't like them and their ideas????

    What has the world come too!!!!

    Hahahaha Geez grow up
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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    CPAC's political compass isn't exactly the best, if you consider with those who had been most prominent in their convention, I would say Christie ends up looking better.
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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    CPAC's political compass isn't exactly the best, if you consider with those who had been most prominent in their convention, I would say Christie ends up looking better.
    Better than...?

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    I wasn't invited either.

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Better than...?
    Than CPAC as a group.
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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Christie is too well liked to be a real Republican. He stands alone in the ability to draw the moderate independants and some democrats to cross over and vote republican. The GOP shunning him is no surprise to me. They screw up everytime they turn around.
    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    CPAC featured speakers will include:

    Romney
    Rubio
    Jindal
    Jeb Bush
    Rand Paul
    Ryan
    Palin (seriously, she's going to be a speaker at CPAC)
    Perry
    Santorum

    As we can see, and not surprisingly, CPAC plans to play to the right of right and then pander to the extreme right from there. It's what lost the GOP their last election. It's same old, same old with the same message. It's going to have the same appeal as it has in the past, even less so, as more people, dazed and disillusioned, leave GOP as I did, as many of us did.

    CPAC meanders like an old drunk to the same bar, to drink with the same people and suffer the same ills as in the past, while it blames its failures on everybody else.

    Christie, at this point, doesn't fit in the list of losers above. If Christie really has big balls, he'll avoid the getting the stench of CPAC all over himself.

    If the GOP is going to live, it's going to have to change. In fact, if the GOP is going to live, it's going to have to get the hell away from a lot of the speakers in the CPAC list above. Does Christie want to be mobbed up with that group? We will see.

    Bottom line: Gov. Christi isn't conservative enough in the eyes of some Republicans. Moreover, they don't like the he was willing to rub elbows with Pres. Obama in a time of crisis or even marginally since. That's what the CPAC Republican leadership have their panties in a wad over.

    I don't think he'll lose any traction from this snub; the residents of NJ, as well as people nationally, like him because he's not afraid to speak his mind or buck his party when necessary, and he gets results! If anything, you'd think Republicans would be taking a page from his playbook instead of trying to alienate him. But that's the Republican party for you - still stuck on being stupid. I mean think about it...

    Here's a guy who's very popular not just in his state but all across the country. He provides "straight-talk" which many people relate to AND he draws people not only across party lines but from various racial groups. If you're a party that's having problems with race relations and articulating your "message", why would you not invite the one person from your party who has the ability to do by himself what your party leadership can't seem to do alone? It's maddening! But as I posted prior to the RNC when Sarah Palin got snubbed and Romney was still struggling what to do about her, if he wasn't able to unite his party it would begin to fracture. Looks like I was right.
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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Bottom line: Gov. Christi isn't conservative enough in the eyes of some Republicans. Moreover, they don't like the he was willing to rub elbows with Pres. Obama in a time of crisis or even marginally since. That's what the CPAC Republican leadership have their panties in a wad over.

    I don't think he'll lose any traction from this snub; the residents of NJ, as well as people nationally, like him because he's not afraid to speak his mind or buck his party when necessary, and he gets results! If anything, you'd think Republicans would be taking a page from his playbook instead of trying to alienate him. But that's the Republican party for you - still stuck on being stupid. I mean think about it...

    Here's a guy who's very popular not just in his state but all across the country. He provides "straight-talk" which many people relate to AND he draws people not only across party lines but from various racial groups. If you're a party that's having problems with race relations and articulating your "message", why would you not invite the one person from your party who has the ability to do by himself what your party leadership can't seem to do alone? It's maddening! But as I posted prior to the RNC when Sarah Palin got snubbed and Romney was still struggling what to do about her, if he wasn't able to unite his party it would begin to fracture. Looks like I was right.
    That's what a shame too. Christie did what any Republican Governor would have done. Our Governor begged for the President to come down (rather, up) himself, when we had our last round of terrible floods.
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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Than CPAC as a group.
    Thanks for clarifying. What I was thinking was compared to, say, Rubio. I'm not at all sure Christie would appear so attractive in comparison because he tends to be so bombastic and thisclose to losing his temper.

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    He must count himself very lucky, he will not have to suffer through some of the speeches that will be held at CPAC.
    CPAC discusses important topics like how to win the war on gays and the necessity of voting rights laws.

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