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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by 66gardeners View Post
    Well at the time the Patriot Act was passed, certainly Rand Paul would have had a bigger bully pulpit than the average Joe the Plumber. Do you have any evidence that Rand Paul ever spoke out against the Patriot Act when it was first being enacted?
    Why would he have had a bigger bully pulpit? He was an ophthalmologist in Kentucky - no political position, elected or appointed. Sure, he was a son of the dissident Republican Congressman. Was he supposed, as such, to issue regular statements along the lines of "yeah, what Dad says" - for future possible audiences?

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Why would he have had a bigger bully pulpit? He was an ophthalmologist in Kentucky - no political position, elected or appointed. Sure, he was a son of the dissident Republican Congressman. Was he supposed, as such, to issue regular statements along the lines of "yeah, what Dad says" - for future possible audiences?

    He may not have had a political position but he obviously had political aspirations. There were many regular joes who tried to make this an issue at the time. Rand Paul did not - while GWBush was president

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by 66gardeners View Post
    I was ignoring you by replying to someone besides you. This is the first time I ever addressed you. I'll be happy to go back to what I WAS doing, i.e., ignoring you.
    Please do. We could have avoided 10 posts in this thread if both of you would ignore me.

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by 66gardeners View Post
    Well at the time the Patriot Act was passed, certainly Rand Paul would have had a bigger bully pulpit than the average Joe the Plumber. Do you have any evidence that Rand Paul ever spoke out against the Patriot Act when it was first being enacted?
    Dr. Paul wasn't in politics in 2001.

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Dr. Paul wasn't in politics in 2001.
    So. A lot of people crusaded about things which they had strong convictions. If he felt THAT passionate about the Patriot Act, he should have let his views be known then. A lot of other people did who still are not politicians.

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by 66gardeners View Post
    So. A lot of people crusaded about things which they had strong convictions. If he felt THAT passionate about the Patriot Act, he should have let his views be known then. A lot of other people did who still are not politicians.
    Please share your publicly expressed opinions about the PATRIOT Act a decade ago.

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Please share your publicly expressed opinions about the PATRIOT Act a decade ago.
    This is not about ME, as much as you would like it to be. Rand Paul could have made an issue of it when it mattered. I see no evidence that he did.

    I will say that I respect that Rand Paul voted for Chuck Hagel's confirmation today. To do otherwise would really have made him a hypocrit with regard to his anti-war views.

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Unquestionably Christie should seek the 2016 Democratic nomination for President given his extreme popularity among Democrats.
    Way too partisan a read on what is going on. Christie has a wave of popularity with MODERATES who didn't warm up to Willard this last go-round. Those same moderates could easily switch to a moderate Republican IF he/she can survive the primary gauntlet.

    CPAC isn't GOP or even Republican, it is more like a growth on it's brain stem. For all it lacks mass it can exert an amazing amount of control over the GOP.

    It will be interesting to see if Christie can figure out how to secure the nomination and still remain embracable by the moderates and attract some of those who traditionaly vote democrat.

    Christie isn't beloved by the democrats, I'd bet a shiny nickle he is the LAST person they want running in 2016....

    as a Republican....

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by 66gardeners View Post
    This is not about ME, as much as you would like it to be. Rand Paul could have made an issue of it when it mattered. I see no evidence that he did.
    Sure, it's about you...and every other private citizen, which is what Rand Paul was in 2001.

    You have absolutely no idea what Dr. Paul may have said to his friends and family or coworkers. I checked Wiki, and he only began his private medical practice in 2007, and he didn't enter politics until 2010.

    Now produce evidence that you as a private citizen saved for posterity in 2001 or 2002 just in case you began posting on a public message board and needed it or decided to run for public office.

    I'm only asking of you what you seem to expect of Dr. Paul.

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    Re: Chris Christie ‘Not Being Invited’ to CPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Sure, it's about you...and every other private citizen, which is what Rand Paul was in 2001.

    You have absolutely no idea what Dr. Paul may have said to his friends and family or coworkers. I checked Wiki, and he only began his private medical practice in 2007, and he didn't enter politics until 2010.

    Now produce evidence that you as a private citizen saved for posterity in 2001 or 2002 just in case you began posting on a public message board and needed it or decided to run for public office.

    I'm only asking of you what you seem to expect of Dr. Paul.

    MANY private citizens expressed outrage when the Patriot Act was enacted. Rand Paul did not. I did not then and am not doing it now. That is the difference between him and I.

    Fact, is Rand Paul did have political aspirations.


    If I have a serious problem with drones and say nothing now, would I be a hypocrit if I was elected Senator in a few years and make my aversion to drones a crusade at that time? Especially if my mother was Nancy Pelosi or some other woman who had been in congress for decades?

    Rand Paul was not obligated to speak out about the Patriot Act when it was enacted, but to speak out about it only after another administration is in charge makes his argument look foolish to me.
    Last edited by 66gardeners; 02-26-13 at 07:29 PM.

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