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    Re: Texas bans shooting immigrants from helicopters

    Before you go out of your way to try to kill someone you should be reasonably sure they intend to do harm. Shooting illegal immigrants that reprsent no danger excpet trying to find a job is not the same as killing someone plotting to do harm to American citizens. It just isnt.
    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Really? A big difference? How do you know the guys illegally entering your country in the back of a pickup truck aren't members of Al Quida? The difference, from my perspective, is that the drone attacks are happening in countries most Americans couldn't find on a map and are killing people most Americans identify as dangerous and not like them, even though some of them are actually American citizens. Bring the drone attacks closer to home and all hell would break loose.

    Where there is no difference is in shooting indescriminately from the sky from a drone or from a helicopter - to suggest otherwise, is dishonest.
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    Re: Texas bans shooting immigrants from helicopters

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenyx View Post
    There's nothing theoretical about the picture presented in the preview above. Did you even look at it? Answers.com has a good explanation of the types of jobs illegal immigrants take and why as well:
    US Illegal Immigration Explained - Profits and Poverty, Social Security and Starvation

    Also, in case you'd like to see a documentary instead of a fictional narrative based on truths, speaking of the brutal conditions illegal immigrants must face just to become an illegal immigrant, I recommend you watch the following video of a man who actually decided to weather it all with 4 immigrants making the crossing:
    Watch Mojados, the Mexican Documentary by Tommy Davis
    And what does any of that matter here?
    You honestly think that the situation in Mexico has nothing to do with the U.S.? You may want to read this:
    The Persistent U.S. Assault to Takeover and Control Mexico

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    You have it terribly bad in your own country so it's okay to break into another's country? We already have our own hard luck stories and folks born to poverty to deal with.
    If things weren't so much worse in Mexico, do you honestly think they'd risk their lives to work in the U.S. illegally?

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    Re: Texas bans shooting immigrants from helicopters

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So as a civilian in a helicopter, how would you know?
    What's your point? My point was shooting from a helicopter is no worse or no better, morally, than shooting from a drone, particularly since there are thousands of innocent dead bodies all over the middle east as a result of collateral damage or missed or wrong targets.

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    Re: Texas bans shooting immigrants from helicopters

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Before you go out of your way to try to kill someone you should be reasonably sure they intend to do harm. Shooting illegal immigrants that reprsent no danger excpet trying to find a job is not the same as killing someone plotting to do harm to American citizens. It just isnt.
    And once again, none of that was what was happenning or allowed here. The folks in the helo weren't shooting for the people but to disable the truck.

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    Re: Texas bans shooting immigrants from helicopters

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    We're not allowed to shoot jews from helicopters either?
    Alright, if you don't get in trouble, I guess it's all good then -.-

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    Re: Texas bans shooting immigrants from helicopters

    Quote Originally Posted by phoenyx View Post
    There's nothing theoretical about the picture presented in the preview above. Did you even look at it? Answers.com has a good explanation of the types of jobs illegal immigrants take and why as well:
    US Illegal Immigration Explained - Profits and Poverty, Social Security and Starvation

    Also, in case you'd like to see a documentary instead of a fictional narrative based on truths, speaking of the brutal conditions illegal immigrants must face just to become an illegal immigrant, I recommend you watch the following video of a man who actually decided to weather it all with 4 immigrants making the crossing:
    Watch Mojados, the Mexican Documentary by Tommy Davis
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    Re: Texas bans shooting immigrants from helicopters

    If they cant see what is in the back of the truck they wuold have to assume there were people in it. Did you read the rest of the article? The shooter was suspended.
    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And once again, none of that was what was happenning or allowed here. The folks in the helo weren't shooting for the people but to disable the truck.
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    Re: Texas bans shooting immigrants from helicopters

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Really? A big difference? How do you know the guys illegally entering your country in the back of a pickup truck aren't members of Al Quida? The difference, from my perspective, is that the drone attacks are happening in countries most Americans couldn't find on a map and are killing people most Americans identify as dangerous and not like them, even though some of them are actually American citizens. Bring the drone attacks closer to home and all hell would break loose.

    Where there is no difference is in shooting indescriminately from the sky from a drone or from a helicopter - to suggest otherwise, is dishonest.
    Historically, Al Qaeda either flies into the US, or drive in through Canada.
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    Re: Texas bans shooting immigrants from helicopters

    I meant it was so obvioulsy soo wrong it is hard to believe they had to pass a law to get people not to do it. but hey, if it hurt your feelings sorry.
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    Re: Texas bans shooting immigrants from helicopters

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Before you go out of your way to try to kill someone you should be reasonably sure they intend to do harm. Shooting illegal immigrants that reprsent no danger excpet trying to find a job is not the same as killing someone plotting to do harm to American citizens. It just isnt.
    You have an unhealthy level of trust in the infallibility of your President and the people who work for him. Using drones to attack the enemy in a field of war is something everyone could and does support - Using drones in a sovereign country, when you're not at war with them, when in some cases they are your ally, to target one person yet kill dozens of innocent others as well is not something decent, moral people would support - I don't support any person or entity that considers themselves an arbitor of who lives and who dies from the comfort of a golf cart thousands of miles away.

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