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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

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    That is why America's latest Medal of Honor winner, when asked to attend Obama's inauguration and sit with the President's wife, said NO. Obama is not one of us, he does not have America's historical warrior spirit. He has no natural feel for fighting men, no natural feel for duty, honor, country and courage.
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    I would argue that everything you claim is as true as the part I am quoting.

    Please show me evidence that Clint Romesha, the most recent MoH winner declined the SOTU invitation on the basis you assigned to him rather the reasons he has stated. Are you calling him a liar?

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    The attack lasted 7 hours at 2 different locations. Doherty and Woods died defending the second location. Panetta has admitted he was NOT in contact with Obama during this 7 hour attack. Obama was nowhere to be found. Stevens had repeatedly asked for more security, and warned of the growing threat in the area. His pleas were ignored. It wasn't like this area wasn't known for terrorist activity, especially after a war just happened within that country.

    We need to know specifics about the people evacuated. Not speculation. Who are they? What did they see? Where are the interviews? Where are these people? We need to see the video of the attack at both locations. Up to this point the State Department has been blocking proper access.
    7 hours is a time frame reasonable to work with.

    But you still have not answered my questions about which American troops we had on hand to deploy to Libya. Then there is the logistics of sending troops to Libya. We would have had to cooperate with the Libyan government to access their airfield and ask their permission to send more troops to the Benghazi consulate.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    There have been 35 attacks upon U.S. embassies and consulates around the world in the past 55 years. The vast majority of them were attacks that took place right outside of the Embassies walls including your attack in Karachi, not U.S. sovereign territory. It's the responsibility of the host nation to protect the perimeter of any foreign diplomatic embassy or consulate. The vast majority of these attacks upon our embassies were bombings outside of the embassy walls.

    Of the 35 attacks on American diplomatic embassies and consulate in the past 55 years, 7 of them the attackers were able to breach the perimeter and put foot on U.S. soverign soil. I'll list everyone where the perimeter wall was breached and when it became the responsibility of the Executive branch of the U.S. Government.

    1968,U.S. Embassy, Saigon, RVN (Tet of 68) (LBJ administration)

    4 November 1979 Tehran, Iran. Islamist take over U.S. Embassy and take 52 Americans hostage. (Carter administration)

    21 November 1979 Islamabad, Pakistan Islamist riots destroy Embassy (Carter administration)

    2 December 1979 Tripoli, Libya Islamist riots destroy Embassy (Carter administration)

    6 December 2004 Jeddah, Saudi Arabia al-Qaeda gunmen raid diplomatic compound (G.W. Bush administration)

    11 September 2012 Cairo, Egypt, Benghazi, Libya, Al Qaeda group of terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya -- killing the U.S. Ambassador and three staff members. (Obama administration)

    1 February 2013 Ankara, Turkey A suicide bomber attacked the American Embassy in the Turkish capital, Ankara, on Friday, detonating himself inside a security entrance to the compound. (Obama administration)
    David Foy was targeted 20-yards from the Consulate. I am not saying the Obama Administration is not responsible for Benghazi. I question the outrage. From what I understand, there were hardly perimeter walls, and am I to assume that walls being breached is the requisite for outrage?

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by DiavoTheMiavo View Post
    David Foy was targeted 20-yards from the Consulate. I am not saying the Obama Administration is not responsible for Benghazi. I question the outrage. From what I understand, there were hardly perimeter walls, and am I to assume that walls being breached is the requisite for outrage?
    One of the questions being asked and Hillery Clinton, the State Department, Barack Obama and the White House refuse to answer, why was there a U.S. Consulate in Benghazi ? Diplomatic business is conducted at Embassies not at consulates. The U.S. Embassy for Libya is located in Tripoli. Consulates are for convenience of U.S. citizens who are on tourist or business visas and for issuing visas to foreign nationals. To the best of my knowledge, Benghazi wasn't a tourist destination for Americans. Benghazi doesn't even have a beach or any waves surfable ! What was the business that was taking place at the consulate in Benghazi, issuing tourist visas to Al Qaeda ?

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    [QUOTE=Unitedwestand13;1061478940]How long did the attack last in Benghazi? Where was the nearest garrison of u.s soldiers near Libya? How long would it have taken for the soldiers to gear up, transit and deploy to the Benghazi consulate? QUOTE]

    President's Truman, Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, Richard M. Nixon, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, G.H. Bush, Slick Willy Clinton, G.H. Bush were all able to keep a Carrier Battle Group and a Marine Expeditionary Unit 24/7 in the Mediterranean Sea.

    Why didn't Barack H. Obama ?

    I know why.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    How long did the attack last in Benghazi? Where was the nearest garrison of u.s soldiers near Libya? How long would it have taken for the soldiers to gear up, transit and deploy to the Benghazi consulate? QUOTE]

    President's Truman, Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, Richard M. Nixon, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, G.H. Bush, Slick Willy Clinton, G.H. Bush were all able to keep a Carrier Battle Group and a Marine Expeditionary Unit 24/7 in the Mediterranean Sea.

    Why didn't Barack H. Obama ?

    I know why.
    Bombing from the air would only cause too much colateral damage.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    If conservatives paid half as much attention to the false claims of WMD in Iraq as they do this crap in Benghazi, maybe the country wouldn't be broke right now.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    The clumsy early handling of the public details concerning Benghazi is nothing compared to Watergate. The former is an example of poor PR. The latter put the nation on the brink of a full-fledged constitutional crisis.

    With all due respect, where is Senator McCain's evidence? Allegations are not the same thing as evidence. That he has sharpened his allegations matters little. Evidence, alone, matters.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

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    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post

    Bombing from the air would only cause too much colateral damage.
    I'm not a pantywaist liberal. Unlike Obama who believes that Americans are no better than anyone else, I believe one American life is worth more than a hundred Arabs.

    That same politicaly correct liberal mentality is what allowed Osama bin Laden to get away when President Clinton had him in his sights. Those feel good liberal policies cost almost 3,000 mostly Americans to die on 9-11-01.

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