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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    The Taliban came to power because of the civil war and the corrupt misdeeds of the warlords. If Ahmed shah massud had not been assasinated on September 9th 2001, Afghanistan would have had a better choice of a leader.
    I concur.

    It seems Ahmed didn't have the blessings of the Clinton administration, probably because Ahmed didn't like leftist, especially Communist. But I was aware who Ahmed was during the 80's and 90's from just reading "Soldier of Fortune" magazine which was the best source for information on what was happening in that part of the world.

    But after 9/11/01 and when we first went in to Afghanistan I was surprised how many teens and young adults had no clue who the Northern Tribes were and who the Taliban was especially after the Taliban blew up the Buddhist Statues of Bamyian in March of 2001. They were built in the 500's A.D. and I know ABC, NBC/MSNBC, CBS and CNN gave the story at least 15 seconds of coverage and Fox News gave it a few minutes of coverage.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Apache does not take Jon Stewart seriously, so he will not bother watching.

    I know from my experience of trying to debate him
    I'm well informed that the majority of Obama's supporters get their news from and are heavily influenced from watching the Comedy Channel's John Stewart's "Daily Show" the "Colbert Report", MSNBC and Saturday Night Live Weekend Update. Isn't that how Obama got elected ?

    What's there to debate, that it wasn't Sarah Palin who said "I can see Russia from my house." when we already know that 48 % of Americans already know that it was Tin Fay on SNL who said it. But 97 % of those who voted for Obama believed that Sarah Palin said it.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I concur.

    It seems Ahmed didn't have the blessings of the Clinton administration, probably because Ahmed didn't like leftist, especially Communist. But I was aware who Ahmed was during the 80's and 90's from just reading "Soldier of Fortune" magazine which was the best source for information on what was happening in that part of the world.

    But after 9/11/01 and when we first went in to Afghanistan I was surprised how many teens and young adults had no clue who the Northern Tribes were and who the Taliban was especially after the Taliban blew up the Buddhist Statues of Bamyian in March of 2001. They were built in the 500's A.D. and I know ABC, NBC/MSNBC, CBS and CNN gave the story at least 15 seconds of coverage and Fox News gave it a few minutes of coverage.
    Given that the Pakistanis seemed to prefer to support hekmatyer over mossud, and apperently we relied on the ISI for advice in the region, we allowed supplies to reach hekmatyer.

    Funny thing though, hekmatyer soon fell out of favor with Pakistan and soon it was the Taliban who became Pakistans lapdogs.

    Ahmed shah mossud was a hero. He was a veteran of the afghan civil war, and his forces fought back successfully againist the soviet invasion and the Taliban. Mossud was a great leader, they called him " the lion of panjishir" unfortunately he could not have become leader of Afghanistan, he was Tajik in a country dominated by pushtuns.

    I think al qeada saw him as a legititmate threat. I doubt the fact that he was murdered two days before 9/11 is mere coincidence.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I think al qeada saw him as a legititmate threat. I doubt the fact that he was murdered two days before 9/11 is mere coincidence.
    That's why he was assassinated.

    Unitedwestand, what do you think of the late Rep. Charlie Wilson ? Yes, the same Charlie Wilson as the movie "Charlie Wilson's War."

    Not to many Democrats like him around today. He was the last of the old Democrat Party before the fringe of the left gained control of the Democrat Party. Most liberal Democrats like Charlie Wilson left the Democrat Party during the late 60's and 70's and came under the GOP tent as part of the neoconservative movement. Charlie remained loyal to the DNC.

    He was a great American.

    Charlie Wilson (Texas politician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Charlie Wilson's War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That's why he was assassinated.

    Unitedwestand, what do you think of the late Rep. Charlie Wilson ? Yes, the same Charlie Wilson as the movie "Charlie Wilson's War."

    Not to many Democrats like him around today. He was the last of the old Democrat Party before the fringe of the left gained control of the Democrat Party. Most liberal Democrats like Charlie Wilson left the Democrat Party during the late 60's and 70's and came under the GOP tent as part of the neoconservative movement. Charlie remained loyal to the DNC.

    He was a great American.

    Charlie Wilson (Texas politician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Charlie Wilson's War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I wonder if Charlie could have foreseen which mujahideen received the supplies the United States paid for? Most of the supplies went on to arm the forces of gulbuldin hekmatyer, who later turned out to be a bad investment. IGulbuddin Hekmatyar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    On the other hand, Ahmed shah mossud was able to fight off soviet forces without any outside help. He was the true leader of the northern alliance.

    Ahmad Shah Massoud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Apache does not take Jon Stewart seriously, so he will not bother watching.

    I know from my experience of trying to debate him
    Why would any adult anyone take Jon Stewart seriously? He is not intended to be serious.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why would any adult anyone take Jon Stewart seriously? He is not intended to be serious.
    Why would anyone take the hypocrisy of John McCain seriously?
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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Why would anyone take the hypocrisy of John McCain seriously?
    Do you understand that this response makes no sense?

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why would any adult anyone take Jon Stewart seriously? He is not intended to be serious.
    If you look at the demographics of who actually watches the Comedy channel and who thinks that John Stewart as a credible news source, they take the death of four Americans as seriously as the rest of Comedy Central's lineup of programing.

    They can't distinguish between what's comedy and what is serious.

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