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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Did you see what the Brits had to say with some of this?

    British intelligence sources said that unarmed drones routinely flew over Benghazi every night in flight patterns and that armed drones which fly over chemical sites, some a short flight from Benghazi, "were always said to be on call." American sources confirmed this and questioned "why was a drone armed only with a camera dispatched?"

    British sources on the ground in Benghazi said they are extremely frustrated by the attack and are still wondering why they weren't called for help. “We have more people on the ground here than the Americans and I just don't know why we didn't get the call?" one said.

    Both American and British sources said, at the very least, the security situation on the ground and the lack of proper response were the result of "complete incompetence." The covert team that came in from Tripoli was held up at the Benghazi airport for more than three hours by Libyan officials. Sources said the team notified officials in Washington that they were being delayed within 30 minutes of their arrival.
    Kinda confirms what I heard two weekends ago. A friend of mine has a friend who's part of the special operations community. I was just listening when he said that the British had their SAS people on the ground in Benghazi just a few klicks from the consulate when it was under attack. Supposedly the SAS contacted the American State Department asking them if they wanted them to respond and evacuate any Americans. There was no response from the State Department.

    This "mistakes were made but no one made any mistakes" doesn't fly.

    Obama as Cn'C is incompetent. Obama has surrounded himself with second rate incompetent people, including Hillery Clinton. I listen to these liberals say how great of a Secretary of State she was. Show me. The Middle East wasn't the basket case it is today four years ago. Four years ago Al Qaeda was confined to Yemen, the Horn of Africa and in northern areas of Pakistan. In the past four years under the Obama administration Al Qaeda can be found in almost every country in the Middle East and throughout North Africa.

    Obama lying to the American people, telling them that "Osama bin Laden is dead, GM is alive and Al Qaeda is on the run." and almost 52 % of Americans believed this liar. For two weeks they blamed the attacks and murder in Benghazi on a video. There was a cover up, that the Obama administration didn't want the American people to know that Al Qaeda wasn't decimated but were actually running all over the Middle East and North Africa expanding their base of operations during the four years of the first Obama administration. Obama lied for his own political gain to get reelected. Now we find out that Al Qaeda is back in Iraq !

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Kinda confirms what I heard two weekends ago. A friend of mine has a friend who's part of the special operations community. I was just listening when he said that the British had their SAS people on the ground in Benghazi just a few klicks from the consulate when it was under attack. Supposedly the SAS contacted the American State Department asking them if they wanted them to respond and evacuate any Americans. There was no response from the State Department.

    This "mistakes were made but no one made any mistakes" doesn't fly.

    Obama as Cn'C is incompetent. Obama has surrounded himself with second rate incompetent people, including Hillery Clinton. I listen to these liberals say how great of a Secretary of State she was. Show me. The Middle East wasn't the basket case it is today four years ago. Four years ago Al Qaeda was confined to Yemen, the Horn of Africa and in northern areas of Pakistan. In the past four years under the Obama administration Al Qaeda can be found in almost every country in the Middle East and throughout North Africa.

    Obama lying to the American people, telling them that "Osama bin Laden is dead, GM is alive and Al Qaeda is on the run." and almost 52 % of Americans believed this liar. For two weeks they blamed the attacks and murder in Benghazi on a video. There was a cover up, that the Obama administration didn't want the American people to know that Al Qaeda wasn't decimated but were actually running all over the Middle East and North Africa expanding their base of operations during the four years of the first Obama administration. Obama lied for his own political gain to get reelected. Now we find out that Al Qaeda is back in Iraq !
    There is no doubt that Obama's Foreign Policy is absolute failure. Moreover he was going to pivot us into the Asian theatre and now is getting us Bogged down with this chit in N. Africa. I mentioned before what about our Allies. As I knew I has the piece up on what some of the Brits were saying.

    The same dweebs that were providing security for Benghazi are the same dweebs that hit us. It was the same militia. Even the Brits confirmed they were setting up road blocks. When our people broke for the CIA Annex, that's who was firing on them.

    Which there is still the part about those 2 Ex Navy Seals fighting off the first wave. Leaving at least 30 -40 of the enemy laying all around the Consulate.

    Do you see those pics from the Consulate and where the CIA Annex is?

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    There is no doubt that Obama's Foreign Policy is absolute failure.
    Obama would have been better off if he would have followed the Clinton administration of not having any foreign policy.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Obama would have been better off if he would have followed the Clinton administration of not having any foreign policy.


    The questions concerning General Ham's role in the September 11 events continue to percolate. Congressman Jason Chaffetz, Utah Republican, said that General Ham told him during a visit to Libya that he had never been asked to provide military support for the Americans under attack in Benghazi. Former United States Ambassador to the U.N. John R, Bolton also mentioned Mr. Chaffetz's account, and contrasted it with Mr. Panetta's statement that General Ham had been part of the team that made the decision not to send in forces. "General Ham has now been characterized in two obviously conflicting ways," Mr. Bolton concluded. "Somebody ought to find out what he actually was saying on September the eleventh."

    No word yet on when General Ham's rotation or retirement take effect.....snip~

    TRR: General at center of Benghazi-gate controversy retiring - Washington Times

    Yeah and then Ham is out the Picture. After taking Command of AFRICOM in March of 2011.....yet now all of a sudden he is done. He had just taken command in Stugartt. I don't know to many Generals that walk into a Command thinking they will walk away in less than a year and a half. Do you?

    Do those pics of the Consulate and the Annex show?

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

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    No word yet on when General Ham's rotation or retirement take effect.....snip~

    TRR: General at center of Benghazi-gate controversy retiring - Washington Times

    Yeah and then Ham is out the Picture. After taking Command of AFRICOM in March of 2011.....yet now all of a sudden he is done. He had just taken command in Stugartt. I don't know to many Generals that walk into a Command thinking they will walk away in less than a year and a half. Do you?

    Do those pics of the Consulate and the Annex show?
    I've been paying close attention for the past few years on how many flag officers and other officers in command have been either relieved of their commands or forced in to retirement.

    The vast majority would be considered to be warriors while their replacements are political brown nosers.

    One of the last remaining warriors in the top brass is the Marine Corps Commandant, Gen. Amos. I wonder if he's next on Obama's hit list ?

    I get a list from the DoD of every promotion of Generals and Admirals when they are made and some of these decisions don't make any sense, as if they are political ???

    We had the Marine Commander of all Marine Bases in Hawaii last year or so relieved of his command because PETA complained about goats and Obama had to appease PETA. Another Marine warrior who wins battles on the battlefield career ended in the name of political correctness.

    The Navy has broken it's record under the Obama administration of having more naval commanders relieved of their commands than under any other administration except FDR's when FDR was relieving Generals and Admirals who were not warriors and replacing them with those who were willing to take the fight to the enemy.

    Now some of these naval commanders who were relieved of their commands were for legitimate reasons. But what it really shows there's a problem and that problem may go beyond the Pentagon, like maybe the White House.


    No, the pictures of the consulate and the CIA Annex don't show.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by DiavoTheMiavo View Post
    And your point is that we should be outraged because it was a"Battle," and it lasted "8-hours." The fact they keep attacking us (although the prorated amount of attacks under Obama are way less than under Bush) is not a concern. The time it took in Benghazi, and that RPG's are not "Bombs" does. As I said . . . Kenya, Tanzania, and Benghazi . . . whats the commonality? You and I both know that answer. The difference between me and you? I don't blame Bush for increasing attacks against embassies two-fold in 8-years verse 50-years before he came in office. Cost of doing business when you want to build nations in the middle-east. So . . . how can we blame Obama? Do you think there was a magic button that brought in Seal Team Six in, in 1 . . . or maybe 2 . . . or maybe 3 . . . or maybe 4-hours?

    Selective outrage. Be happy this doesn't happen monthly.
    The differences between us are more fundamental. I believe the commander in chief should lead. You do not. This was qualitatively different from the explosion of a car bomb. It used to astonish me that anyone would have to explain the difference between a terrorist attack that last a minute and one that lasts for nearly eight hours. It no longer does. Some people are willing to excuse anything for their tyrant.

    There were many options open to the president. Special operators, if they happened to be nearby was but one of them. And yes, there are magic buttons that the president can push to make things happen. But only if the president is present for duty. The One did nothing.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Course those 2 Committees finding Gross negligence tends to put a wrinkle into that scenario.
    It doesn't rewrite history.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    I seriously doubt that any president ever elected...hasn't ran on lies, distortions, and deceptions. It's the nature of the beast. The citizens of our great nation have been are apparently still are gullible and politically ignorant...otherwise our political system and government wouldn't be so screwed up.

    The massive cover up...is the voter's inability to take responsibility and accountability for our woes in government.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Kinda confirms what I heard two weekends ago. A friend of mine has a friend who's part of the special operations community. I was just listening when he said that the British had their SAS people on the ground in Benghazi just a few klicks from the consulate when it was under attack. Supposedly the SAS contacted the American State Department asking them if they wanted them to respond and evacuate any Americans. There was no response from the State Department.

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    OMG! No wonder they were attacked. So many loose lips in that community.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    It doesn't rewrite history.
    Right.....as in this case it Marks History. A Stain forever in time. All on Team Obama's record and to go down in history as incompetents who had no clue what they were doing.

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