To be more historically correct, most of the demonstration against the war in Vietnam wasn't really about the war but against the draft. When the draft ended, the demonstrations died out but the war continued for for another two years.
There were the political left activist including the (New Left) in Congress who opposed the war in Vietnam, but they actually opposed the United States winning the war in Vietnam.
Should be noted that when the last American combat forces departed the RVN in 1973, every province with in the RVN was left in control of ARVAN forces. They would lose control of Vietnam when the Democrats in Congress in 1975 cut off all funding to South Vietnam. That's when NVA tanks rolled across the DMZ and it's pretty hard to stop an invading army when ARVAN troops were having their ammunition rationed at three rounds per day.
And these are the people who 'manipulated' Ronald Reagan? David Frum, among many others on you list, would be surprised to hear that.The NeoCons. All the people at AEI and Heritage and Irving and Bill Kristol, Jean Kirkpatric, James Woolsey, Richard Perle, Scooter Libbey, Frank Gaffney, Michael Ledeen, Lynn Cheney, Robert Kagan, Max Boot, John R. Bolton, Elliot Abrams, Randy Scheunemann, Paul Wolfowitz, Norman Podhoretz, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Daniel Bell, Robert Kaplan, Niall Ferguson, Charles Krauthammer, David Frum, .....
You're a big Chuck Hagel fan, are you?"...So why did we invade Iraq? I believe it was the triumph of the so-called neo-conservative ideology, as well as Bush administration arrogance and incompetence that took America into this war of choice. . . . They obviously made a convincing case to a president with very limited national security and foreign policy experience, who keenly felt the burden of leading the nation in the wake of the deadliest terrorist attack ever on American soil." - Senator Chuck Hagel
The Vietnam War was started by a Democrat President, enlarged by a Democratic President, and ended by a Republican President. That's history and you're stuck with it.Vietnam was ended by protests from both sides. "Hell no, we won't go."
Btw, it says here the Chevy Volt gets over a 1,000 miles before needing a recharge and 30 to 50 mpg on gas. Thats not bad. Like any new technology, it's expensive at first. I suspect the horse and buggy crowd thought the Model-T was too expensive as well. But leasing makes the car competitively priced for average drivers....
98 mpge (3.5 kwh/10 miles)
37 mpg Gas
2013 Chevrolet Volt Quick Spin
The Navy likes the green fuel. It was an experiment to see if biofuels would operate the war planes and ships in order to help make the US less dependent on foreign oil for our national security. The experiment worked and now they plan to start helping private industry create the fuel so by the end of the decade the green fuel cost will be competitive with oil. I like people who can think ahead.Awhile back I listened to a group of Marine FA-18 pilots complaining that under the Obama administration they are only able to fly 2 or 3 of the 5 schedual flight training missions because the lack of funding for fuel for there aircradft. While Obama has ordered the Navy to pay $26 per gallon for green fuel to power their ships and aircraft instead of the normal fuel that cost less than $4. per gallon. When you talking about fueling a ship, you not dealing with gallons or even barrels of fuel but tens of hundreds of tons of fuel.
>" The U.S. Navy has started going green under the direction of Obama’s Secretary of the Navy Roy Mabus. They started using a special “green fuel” for their “Great Green Fleet,” which will be tested this month while completing its Rim of the Pacific exercise. Unfortunately, this green project already reflects the worst aspects of the Obama Administration’s green agenda. The fuel being used by the “Great Green Fleet” is colossal waste of taxpayer money.
The standard aviation fuel used by the Navy $3.60 a gallon. The “green fuel,” made from things like algae, chicken fat, and seeds, costs $26 a gallon. Rob Port of Say Anything Blog further highlights the absurdity of the Navy’s “green fuel” project: "< -> U.S. Navy Going Green, Spending Extra 622% to Use Chicken Fat Fuel - Townhall.com Staff
Defense officials defend Great Green Fleet cost | Reuters
It's funny how we have to put up with the kicking and screaming in order to advance into the 21st century.
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Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.
I've been involved in a thirty year research project, not on the strategy or tactics or the mistakes made during the Vietnam war but who was responsible for getting America involved in a shooting war in the Republic of Vietnam. All I need just one more big dump by the CIA, the last one being in 2006.
I have about a dozen boxes of research material, interviews, declassified records, interviews of Gen. Giap all in French. Lets just say it wasn't Eisenhower or LBJ. Many of those who were responsible would become some of the biggest anti war activist during the late 60's and early 70's.