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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by DiavoTheMiavo View Post

    Selective outrage. Be happy this doesn't happen monthly.
    It could happen monthly and other videos would likely be held responsible.

    I doubt the response, apart from the families whose people were killed, is outrage. It's more like disgust.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    I'm still waiting for you state specifically which actions the President should have taken.



    Who? The CIA.
    It's interesting that President's Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, G.H. Bush, Clinton and G.W. Bush were always able to keep a Navy CBG (Carrier Battle Group) and a U.S. Marine BLT (Battalion Landing Team) or a Marine MEU (Marine Expeditionary Unit) at sea in the Mediterranean Sea 24/7 just for such an emergency as we saw in Benghazi.

    Why wasn't there a carrier and a Marine MEU in the Mediterranean on 9-11-12 ? Could it be that there was no money because Obama had already made $500 Billion Dollars in cuts to our military during his first term in the White House ? It seems to be the reason.

    The U.S. Navy has five AOR's (Area of Responsibility), The Mediterranean being one of those AOR's and there's suppose to be a CSG (Carrier Strike Group) on station in each of those AOR's. The last I checked was last week and there was only one AOR where there was a carrier on station in it's assigned AOR.

    Who's the Commander and Chief ? Who ever he is, he's one Hell of an incompetent Cn'C who's more concerned with gays serving in the military, friendly gender heads and latrines and putting girls on the front lines in combat units than making sure that the Navy is capable of carrying out it's mission.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The Community Organizer in Chief probably has greater access to information than I do but I certainly would have stayed at the station that night and ordered men to the scene as quickly as possible. Would that make sense to you?
    So you're dodging the question. Other than sitting in a chair in the Situation Room; you haven't named anything the President didn't do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The CIA what? Knew it was not the fault of a video?
    No, the CIA briefed Ambassador Susan Rice and in that briefing she was told that it was a spontaneous event and even Petraeus testified that the CIA received intelligence that indicated it was in response to the video.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The Vietnam War was over in 1975, five years before Ronald Reagan took office.
    So? The war hawks didn't shrivel up and die after the end of Vietnam. They got tired of Carter's passive ways and found a new schmuck they could manipulate in Reagan.


    Which "they" are you referring to?
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    Neoconservatism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    "...So why did we invade Iraq? I believe it was the triumph of the so-called neo-conservative ideology, as well as Bush administration arrogance and incompetence that took America into this war of choice. . . . They obviously made a convincing case to a president with very limited national security and foreign policy experience, who keenly felt the burden of leading the nation in the wake of the deadliest terrorist attack ever on American soil." - Senator Chuck Hagel

    The Vietnam War was started by the Democrats and ended by the Republicans.

    Now that you've demonstrated your lack of knowledge of side issues such as Abu Ghraib and Vietnam, why not continue your streak with your views on Benghazi, the topic of the thread?
    Vietnam was ended by protests from both sides. "Hell no, we won't go."

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    "What difference, at this point, does it make?"
    Firstly, out of context.

    Secondly, I didn't say it and I'm not responsible for what other people say, especially the secretary of state.

    Thirdly, this is pretty lazily done dude.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    It's interesting that President's Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, G.H. Bush, Clinton and G.W. Bush were always able to keep a Navy CBG (Carrier Battle Group) and a U.S. Marine BLT (Battalion Landing Team) or a Marine MEU (Marine Expeditionary Unit) at sea in the Mediterranean Sea 24/7 just for such an emergency as we saw in Benghazi. Could it be that there was no money because Obama had already made $500 Billion Dollars in cuts to our military during his first term in the White House ? It seems to be the reason.
    Right, because the President decides federal funding. But, hey, perhaps the hundreds of billions the DOD "loses" every year will find its way out of someone's pocket. BTW - your insinuation is untrue. The USS John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group was in the Mediterranean at the time and its commanding officer was relieved for disobeying a direct order not to charge into the situation until it could be determined precisely what was happening and what they were up against. His little hero complex would have gotten more than four people killed that night.
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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Right, because the President decides federal funding. But, hey, perhaps the hundreds of billions the DOD "loses" every year will find its way out of someone's pocket. BTW - your insinuation is untrue. The USS John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group was in the Mediterranean at the time and its commanding officer was relieved for disobeying a direct order not to charge into the situation until it could be determined precisely what was happening and what they were up against. His little hero complex would have gotten more than four people killed that night.
    The USS Stennis was in the Pacific on 9-11-12 in transit to it's AOR. The 5th Fleet AOR is not in the Mediterranean. The 6rth Fleet AOR is the Mediterranean. US NAVY - Fleets

    >" Research of the Stennis’ location indicates that the aircraft carrier was oceans away from the scene on Sept. 11.

    Deploying four months early, the flattop left its home port of Bremerton, Wash., on Aug. 22 and headed south to pick up the San Diego-based cruiser Mobile Bay and two North Island Naval Air Station helicopter squadrons.

    The group sailed out of San Diego Bay on Sept. 1.

    On Sept. 11, the ships were still in the Pacific, according to a Facebook video of a Sept. 11, 2001, remembrance ceremony held that day in the Stennis hangar bay and a Navy photo of the event.

    On Sept. 15, the ship posted a Facebook video in which Gaouette said that the carrier group was in the Pacific, heading toward the Indian Ocean. In late September, the ship stopped in Malaysia. In early October, it performed exercises off Thailand with the aircraft carrier George Washington.

    On Oct. 17, the strike group first entered the U. S. Fifth Fleet region, which is the Arabian Sea and surroundings.

    A naval official familiar with the area said that only a warship located in the Mediterranean or Red seas might have helped the Americans attacked in Libya. "< Navy denies Stennis leader removed over Libya | UTSanDiego.com

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It could happen monthly and other videos would likely be held responsible.

    I doubt the response, apart from the families whose people were killed, is outrage. It's more like disgust.
    Yes . . . you speak for the families. If you are family member excuse my response . . . if not . . . selective outrage.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    A naval official familiar with the area said that only a warship located in the Mediterranean or Red seas might have helped the Americans attacked in Libya. "< Navy denies Stennis leader removed over Libya | UTSanDiego.com
    Its obvious why he was retired.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    So you're dodging the question. Other than sitting in a chair in the Situation Room; you haven't named anything the President didn't do.
    There's no question as to what he didn't do. He didn't try to save the men the Community Organizer in Chief is responsible for.
    No, the CIA briefed Ambassador Susan Rice and in that briefing she was told that it was a spontaneous event and even Petraeus testified that the CIA received intelligence that indicated it was in response to the video.
    You believe that? Then you will believe anything. Did they who this 'intelligence' was from???

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