Where 2 Committees have found GROSS negligence. Incompetency, which has affected National Security, Compromised CIA Operations, placed US Personnel and Assets at Risk, and was the cause of 4 deaths. Which included a US Ambassador.
Currently we have no justice as Obama has said. We also now know that with the event in Egypt earlier that Day. Which dealt with another issue of Obamas Foreign Policy. That Obama thru the explanations of his own people. Who was away Partying(campaigning) dropped the ball on the Anniversary of 911. Wherein 23 Muslims Countries rose up and Protested the US and we know that Social media was used by a Sunni Cleric in Egypt. Who began that Riot and Protest in Egypt was also in fact the one to Use Social media to call on all Sunni Muslims to Demonstrate, and protest the US.
Which we now know from Panetta that he only talked to Obama one time at 5pm. Which Panetta admits to.
We also now have Panetta and General Dempsey Putting the Blame squarely on the State Dept and Hillary. Who has ran off thinking she should have to suffer no consequences whatsoever.
"Fools rush in where others fear to tread." Did you read the first page of the Marine Doctrinal Publication on Warfare that your source quoted from, where it says that it's not a manual, it's a philosophy and the publication should be read from cover to cover in it's entirety so as not to take it out of context? No? Well, that explains why your source didn't make any sense. But hey, here's a quote from the Marine Doctrinal Publications on Intelligence.....That maybe the case about the blogger.....but that doesn't change up what is in the Marine Corps Doctrinal Publication. Which is why I brought this Bloggers piece up to bear from your Source the Weekly Standard.
“And therefore I say: Know the enemy, know yourself; your victory will never be endangered. Know the ground, know the weather; your victory will then be total.” - Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Gen. Dempsy and Panetta both stressed they didn't have enough intelligence on the ground to know what was going on at the consolate in order to respond. Why don't you believe them? Do you really believe they wanted Amb. Stevens and others to die?
As far as I can tell there weren't any aircraft carriers in the Mediterranean Sea or anywhere near Libya. Which is probably why Panetta kept saying they couldn't respond in time because of the distance.Okay Fixed Wing.....What happened to the Aircraft carrier that was sitting off Libya?
"......This is a standard complement of Navy forces in the sea, and as of now, the Navy is not moving ships to Libya in response to the crisis. There are no aircraft carriers in the Mediterranean at present...."
Snapshot of U.S. warships sent to Libya | UTSanDiego.com
But that was the intel they had at the time. What purpose would Rice have for lying about the attack? What difference does it make if the terrorists attacked because of a video or 9/11 or revenge for some cleric? It doesn't change the fact that it was a well co-ordinated, planned attack or that people were killed or that without intelligence from the ground the response would still have been the same regardless of the terrorists motive.But they did know where Stevens was before the battle began.....as he was on the front street out in front of Consulate with The Turks Envoy one hour before the battle began. Then he returned inside the Consulate. Which btw where there were no protestors whatsoever. Yet......Obama sent Susan Rice to make the Rounds on a Sunday to say there were protestors and that was the Intel they had at the time. Which now has been proven to be totally false.
I don't know, did Rice ever say who sent her out on the talk shows? I think she was just relaying information that was available at the time about a fluid and ongoing situtation. I've read several articles from the first day or two after the attack and they were all pretty much saying the same the thing that Susan Rice did. I really don't think what she did was that big of deal, at least not when compared to the months of misinformation and outright lies we were told during the buildup to the Iraq invasion.Who Sent out Susan Rice to make the talk Shows? Clinton or Obama? Oh. and that Obama meaning would include Word from the White House or any Senior Staff that would be in touch with Obama to let him know. But was the individual to relay the Presidents acknowledgement to do so.
After this point there is the issue that the American People were lied to Publicly. Also Thru the Election on questions brought up about Benghazi.
That's great that you can cite Some Sun Tzu. Course I prefer Musahsi.
Yes we know what Panetta and Dempsey said. What did Petraeus say?
That's Right there was no Aircraft in the Region.....but there was Arleigh Burke Class Destroyer there. Which I am glad you aptly found and put up. No Aircraft: that's what Panetta and Dempsey says. Yet all new Arleigh Burkes come with not one but 2 Helicopters.
Technical specifications of Arleigh Burke-class warship:
•Length: 509 feet (early versions were 505 feet)
•Beam: 66 feet
•Draft: 30.5 feet
•Speed: Up to 35 mph
•Range: 4,400 miles
•Aircraft: Up to two MH-60R Seahawk LAMPS III helicopters (on new versions of ship)
•Sources: US Navy, Defense Department, UPI, Defense Insiders Daily, Wikipedia,
Moreover.....does the US have Allies in the Region? So you don't think we could have got airpower? Borrowed, used, manipulated our way into some planes?
Because Rice knew there was no Protest outside the Consulate. Despite what the White House talking point was. What difference it makes is due to all that I put in the post above yours. Plus the difference is to make sure those who failed in their jobs take not only responsibility but whatever Repercussions that comes with them. In this case if it means the destruction of Clinton's Career and future ambition.....So be it!
Also it matters as Team Obama's eyes were elsewhere. Plus lets not forget the Obama couldn't have us get Caught sending weapons to Syria after he publicly said he wouldn't give arms to the Syrian Rebels, now.....could he? So it also matters as it was on the Anniversary of 911 when Team Obama should have been making sure they were on top of all Intel for that day. Not worry about getting re-elected. Do you think that one day or weekend could have been like a timeout for Campaign Time?
But no.....see at the time Obama was getting desperate as many polls had Romney winning which all was round here later pointing that very fact out while saying what happened. Whats was up with your polls.....Remember. Well, do you think there really is some excuse for that weekend? Ask yourself this.....what would have been Obamas schedule if there wouldn't have been NO Election. Think he would have been more concentrated on issues with the Country rather than his own Personal Campaign?
"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
Which "they" are you referring to?They became GWBush's closet advisors and are largely responsible for misleading the country into war on Iraq and have absolutely no remorse for the damage they've caused.
The Vietnam War was started by the Democrats and ended by the Republicans.If they get back into power they intend to invade Iran under the same false pretenses... because u know, they had such a huge success with Vietnam and Iraq. So when it comes to taking responsibility and learning from past mistakes, its Republicans that don't have a leg to stand on because neo-conservatives are their baggage, now.
Now that you've demonstrated your lack of knowledge of side issues such as Abu Ghraib and Vietnam, why not continue your streak with your views on Benghazi, the topic of the thread?
"This is post-Benghazi," one military official told CNN. "We're looking at instability in Libya, Egypt, Syria and now Israel and Gaza."
The Navy just extended by at least 10 days the tour of three amphibious ships carrying more than 2,000 Marines, Harrier jets, V-22 tilt rotor aircraft and a variety of helicopters, as CNN first reported last week.
Those tours were extended as a result of the conflict in Gaza as a precautionary measure should there have been a need to evacuate Americans from Israel. A cease-fire was reached on Wednesday after a week of violence.
The Pentagon is focusing on the eastern Mediterranean, where the ships will stay, the military official told CNN.
The Navy also previously announced that four warships capable of providing ballistic missile defense will now be based at Rota, Spain, putting them closer to potential threats from Syria and Iran. They are the USS Ross, the USS Donald Cook, the USS Carney and the USS Porter. Four other ships are stationed off the coast of Israel as a hedge against any ballistic missile launch from Iran.
U.S. considers increasing military presence in Mediterranean – CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs
Yet they didn't list the names of those 4 ships off the Israeli Coast.
We simply cannot beieve what the Libyan Government says, or the Egyptian, or indeed any Islamic country has to say. We can only judge them according to their actions, and we can easily see what those actions have been.A U.S. official told CNN that the current assessment by the intelligence community is that surface to air missiles from Libya have made their way into Gaza after being smuggled through Egypt.