Page 25 of 41 FirstFirst ... 15232425262735 ... LastLast
Results 241 to 250 of 405

Thread: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

  1. #241
    Sage
    Moot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Utah
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:04 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    27,460

    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Umm, you're moving the goalposts. What you said was, "What are your expectations of a President while a consulate more than 6,000 miles away is under attack? What specific actions do you think the President should take?"

    You seem to think that mileage is a problem for Presidents, but in addition to homing pigeons, they also have encrypted messages and phones too. What I mean is that even before you were born, Presidents faced logistical communication problems...and seemed to remain informed. The current President had communication advantages not even dreamed of in the 1940's...so why wasn't in the "situation room"?
    Well, he is right. Obama was 6,000 miles away and the nearest air support to Benghazi was over two hours away. It took the six man Navy Seal team with an armored vehicle hours to get there.

    "Panetta said, though he did meet with Obama at a 5 o'clock prescheduled gathering, the president left operational details, including knowledge of what resources were available to help the Americans under siege, "up to us."
    Panetta: Obama Absent Night of Benghazi | The Weekly Standard

    Of course, McCain the hero would have shut down the government and sent 50,000 troops to Libya in fifteen minutes, right? So after giving a direct order to Panetta to do what he could to help the personel at the consolate, what else would you have had Obama do that night that would have made a difference?

  2. #242
    Global Moderator
    Moderator

    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    36,866

    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Well, he is right. Obama was 6,000 miles away and the nearest air support to Benghazi was over two hours away. It took the six man Navy Seal team with an armored vehicle hours to get there.

    "Panetta said, though he did meet with Obama at a 5 o'clock prescheduled gathering, the president left operational details, including knowledge of what resources were available to help the Americans under siege, "up to us."
    Panetta: Obama Absent Night of Benghazi | The Weekly Standard

    Of course, McCain the hero would have shut down the government and sent 50,000 troops to Libya in fifteen minutes, right? So after giving a direct order to Panetta to do what he could to help the personel at the consolate, what else would you have had Obama do that night that would have made a difference?
    Your hyperbole doesn't move me. But clue in--the President of the United States has multiple options. Obama didn't do ****. That was the option he chose.

  3. #243
    Guru

    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Columbus, OH
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 07:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    4,478

    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Of course, McCain the hero would have shut down the government and sent 50,000 troops to Libya in fifteen minutes, right? So after giving a direct order to Panetta to do what he could to help the personel at the consolate, what else would you have had Obama do that night that would have made a difference?
    Indeed. Lets hear the maverick explain what he would have done differently. No hindsight allowed.

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    But clue in--the President of the United States has multiple options.
    Such as?

  4. #244
    Sage
    Moot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Utah
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:04 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    27,460

    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Your hyperbole doesn't move me. But clue in--the President of the United States has multiple options. Obama didn't do ****. That was the option he chose.
    There was nothing he could do. By the time he was briefed about the attack it was over. Bush had the same problem with 9/11 where the whole country knew about the attacks before he did and for hours afterwards he still didn't know what was really going on because the communication system wasn't working on Airforce One. Worse yet, it's possible that he was a target for assassination and he didn't have a jet escort while he flying around in circles over the country. Is that what you wanted Obama to do, run around circles like a chicken with his head cut off? Would that have made you feel better?
    Last edited by Moot; 02-22-13 at 02:19 AM.

  5. #245
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Indeed, "I take responsibility" would be quite a shocker to the GOP base who wear their personal responsibility on their sleeves.


    October 16, 2012

    "I take responsibility," Clinton told CNN in an interview while on a visit to Peru. "I'm in charge of the State Department's 60,000-plus people all over the world, 275 posts. The president and the vice president wouldn't be knowledgeable about specific decisions that are made by security professionals. They're the ones who weigh all of the threats and the risks and the needs and make a considered decision."....read
    Clinton: I'm responsible for diplomats' security - CNN.com
    Except for the fact that saying one takes responsibility and then not expecting to be any consequences.....that usually is worn on Democrats Sleeves. Just as Clinton has demonstrated as well as Obama.

  6. #246
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    They are well on their way to permanent status as a minority party and their obstruction is a big reason. Since when is the people's will tyranny?
    That would be 30 Republican states vs 20 Liberal.....but do tell us how that equals the minority.

  7. #247
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Thanks for your opinion, it is tainted by you consistant hatred of the President, but you are welcome to it anyway.
    That opinion is thankfully not shared by the rest of America which not only re-elected Obama but continue to show their confidence his leadership in every major poll. That must really hurt.
    A President can't be everywhere at once but there is no doubt that someone let him down. I do find it interesting that the CIA was responsible for security and Petreas bailed soon after the incident.
    I have not trusted the CIA for a long long time, their terrible bungling of the Iraqi intelligence was just the icing on the cake. I knew it was time to throw them all out and start over after 911 but all they got were medals and raises.
    Got a link that stated that the CIA was there for security? Seems throughout two Investigations there is not one report that states the CIS had security.

  8. #248
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Well, he is right. Obama was 6,000 miles away and the nearest air support to Benghazi was over two hours away. It took the six man Navy Seal team with an armored vehicle hours to get there.

    "Panetta said, though he did meet with Obama at a 5 o'clock prescheduled gathering, the president left operational details, including knowledge of what resources were available to help the Americans under siege, "up to us."
    Panetta: Obama Absent Night of Benghazi | The Weekly Standard

    Of course, McCain the hero would have shut down the government and sent 50,000 troops to Libya in fifteen minutes, right? So after giving a direct order to Panetta to do what he could to help the personel at the consolate, what else would you have had Obama do that night that would have made a difference?

    Seem Christol didn't mention anything about McCain did he. But he did bring up some quite noticeable issues for Panetta.....huh?

    As Bill Kristol wrote in the month after the attack, "Panetta's position is untenable: The Defense Department doesn't get to unilaterally decide whether it's too risky or not to try to rescue CIA operators, or to violate another country's air space. In any case, it’s inconceivable Panetta didn't raise the question of what to do when he met with the national security adviser and the president at 5 p.m. on the evening of September 11 for an hour. And it's beyond inconceivable he didn't then stay in touch with the White House after he returned to the Pentagon.".....snip~

  9. #249
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Your hyperbole doesn't move me. But clue in--the President of the United States has multiple options. Obama didn't do ****. That was the option he chose.
    "While Americans were under assault in Benghazi, the president found time for a non-urgent, politically useful, hour-long call to Prime Minister Netanyahu. And his senior national security staff had to find time to arrange the call, brief the president for the call, monitor it, and provide an immediate read-out to the media. I suspect Prime Minister Netanyahu, of all people, would have understood the need to postpone or shorten the phone call if he were told that Americans were under attack as the president chatted. But for President Obama, a politically useful telephone call—and the ability to have his aides rush out and tell the media about that phone call—came first.".....snip~

    Yeah.....like getting on the Phone with Netanyahu for an hour. Note the set up for the call.

  10. #250
    Don't Give a Rat's Ass
    SMTA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    OH
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:43 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    21,803

    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Wow, a thread of your own, eh?
    Greatness lies not in being strong, but in the right use of strength - Henry Ward Beecher
    Baby sister, I was born game and I intend to go out that way - Rooster Cogburn

Page 25 of 41 FirstFirst ... 15232425262735 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •