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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

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    What are your expectations of a President while a consulate more than 6,000 miles away is under attack? What specific actions do you think the President should take?
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    I was unaware that US security policy was based upon distance from DC.

    Less mileage is good, more mileage is bad?

    Really!?
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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

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    Less mileage is good, more mileage is bad? Really!?
    Distance ALWAYS has negative impacts on response time. Would you care to answer those questions?

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

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    Distance ALWAYS has negative impacts on response time. Would you care to answer those questions?
    Seriously?

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    You're welcome to answer those questions yourself. BTW - I'd consider a World War to require more involvement than an attack on a consulate in Libya.
    Umm, you're moving the goalposts. What you said was, "What are your expectations of a President while a consulate more than 6,000 miles away is under attack? What specific actions do you think the President should take?"

    You seem to think that mileage is a problem for Presidents, but in addition to homing pigeons, they also have encrypted messages and phones too. What I mean is that even before you were born, Presidents faced logistical communication problems...and seemed to remain informed. The current President had communication advantages not even dreamed of in the 1940's...so why wasn't in the "situation room"?

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Umm, you're moving the goalposts. What you said was, "What are your expectations of a President while a consulate more than 6,000 miles away is under attack? What specific actions do you think the President should take?" You seem to think that mileage is a problem for Presidents, but in addition to homing pigeons, they also have encrypted messages and phones too. What I mean is that even before you were born, Presidents faced logistical communication problems...and seemed to remain informed. The current President had communication advantages not even dreamed of in the 1940's...so why wasn't in the "situation room"?
    I'm not moving the goalposts. You are avoiding the question. So, again, what precisely are your expectations? What specific actions do you believe the President should have taken. I'm sick of seeing people whine about it without saying specifically what they think he should have done. Aside from planting his ass in a chair in the Situation room; what specific actions do you think he should have taken?

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

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    Really? Are the numbers already in?

    Share please.
    This thread is about Benghazi not Solandra, remember?

    Good point.
    Thanks, I thought so, too.

    No, I understand you can see no reason why he should stick around when Americana are under attack. Any idea what he might have been doing instead?.
    Plotting to take over the world, I imagine.

    Americans are under attack 24/7 in Afganistan. Where's your bleeding heart for them?

    But of course he did give a different story as well.
    Of course.

    Do you still believe it was the fault of the Internet guy too?
    I think it was a terrorist attack, but it could have been inspired by the video tape and/or the anniversary of 9/11. Who knows, really? I'll wait for the movie. lol

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    I'm not moving the goalposts. You are avoiding the question. So, again, what precisely are your expectations? What specific actions do you believe the President should have taken. I'm sick of seeing people whine about it without saying specifically what they think he should have done. Aside from planting his ass in a chair in the Situation room; what specific actions do you think he should have taken?
    Well, let's begin with the President's planting his ass in a chair. He did not.

    What could the President have done? First, he could have decided to engage once he was informed. And then he could've phoned Sec/State to make sure she was on top of the situation and reporting to him.

    But okay, he didn't. He dropped the ball. I'll give him grace and assume that he had confidence that his Sec/State was handling this.

    Now YOU explain why Ambassador Rice was trotted out to all five Sunday poli-talk shows to disseminate a damage-control LIE that was known to be a lie from 9-11 on. You think Rice just went rogue?

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Well, let's begin with the President's planting his ass in a chair. He did not. What could the President have done? First, he could have decided to engage once he was informed. And then he could've phoned Sec/State to make sure she was on top of the situation and reporting to him.
    So you want the President to sit in a chair for hours and micromanage his staff? That about sum it up?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Now YOU explain why Ambassador Rice was trotted out to all five Sunday poli-talk shows to disseminate a damage-control LIE that was known to be a lie from 9-11 on. You think Rice just went rogue?
    That was the assessment.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So it wasn't her fault after all. huh? Instead it was 'underfunding'. Perhaps she and Obama should have considered the safety of their fellow Americans before jetting around the world or wasting tax dollars on companies like Solyndra.

    The President should have done everything possible to save those men and stayed on the job until it was certain he did all he could do. He abdicated his responsibility
    Thanks for your opinion, it is tainted by you consistant hatred of the President, but you are welcome to it anyway.
    That opinion is thankfully not shared by the rest of America which not only re-elected Obama but continue to show their confidence his leadership in every major poll. That must really hurt.
    A President can't be everywhere at once but there is no doubt that someone let him down. I do find it interesting that the CIA was responsible for security and Petreas bailed soon after the incident.
    I have not trusted the CIA for a long long time, their terrible bungling of the Iraqi intelligence was just the icing on the cake. I knew it was time to throw them all out and start over after 911 but all they got were medals and raises.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    So you want the President to sit in a chair for hours and micromanage his staff? That about sum it up?
    I'm pretty sure you and I have differing definitions on "micro-management." I don't think that monitoring an international situation during which a United States Ambassador was captured and killed is "micro-managing."

    Just FYI, the last time an Ambassador was killed like this was over 30 years ago. This wasn't just another day at the office for the President.

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