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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    No. GRS (Global Response Staff), JSOC (Joint Special Operations Command), SOD (Secretary of Defense..commonly SECDEF).



    SNAFU in the sense that it was a logistical and bureaucratic issue; one that the United States has always suffered from. We had the same problems before and during Pearl Harbor and 9/11/01. People also need to face reality and realize that the CIA is practically worthless. Its little more than a landing pad for information from foreign intelligence agencies. Nothing that comes out of these witch hunts will address that so nothing that happens here will prevent another incident. The simple truth of the matter is that we have always sucked at predicting events so the important thing is to focus on better response to them. The inane way our national defense is run was exposed, once again, on 9/11/01.

    Have know idea how old you are, but are you aware that during the 1970's that the "New Left" with in the Democrat Party castrated the CIA so they could no longer do their job. I remember when that happened.

    Even the 9/11 Commission pointed this out in their report.

    For you who are not familiar with military acronyms, SNAFU means, "Situation Normal All F##### Up."

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Have know idea how old you are, but are you aware that during the 1970's that the "New Left" with in the Democrat Party castrated the CIA so they could no longer do their job. I remember when that happened.
    I'm not going to blame the Democrats of the 1970s for the state of the CIA in 2013.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    I was talking about US troops.

    Cleric vows attacks if U.S. troops stay in Iraq

    "A powerful anti-American Shiite cleric in Iraq with thousands of loyal followers threatened on Sunday that U.S. forces who stay past the Dec. 31 withdrawal deadline are fair game to attack.

    Iraqi officials, worried about a potential backlash if U.S. troops remain in the country, have tried to portray any American force that does not withdraw as trainers of the still-growing Iraqi military rather than as combat troops.

    While the security situation in Iraq has improved over the past few years, attacks are still commonplace. In June alone, 15 U.S. soldiers were killed, making it the bloodiest month for the U.S. military in Iraq in two years. Nearly all of them were killed in attacks by Shiite militias bent on forcing out American troops on schedule."
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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Ok, so 1 out of 44.



    What is with peoples' obsession with conspiracy theories? The President spoke based on the information made available to him and blaming him for the Arab Spring is just absurd. Our chess pieces in the Middle East fell and it is never a good idea to be on the wrong side of a revolution. If anything is to be learned from Iraq and the Arab Spring its that the United States shouldn't install and support tyrants in the first place. In terms of Al Qaeda, it will never be decimated and no one should clutch their pearls in shock at the idea of a politician lying on the campaign trail. Romney told quite a few whoppers himself.
    There have been other Presidents who have micromanaged the military during war time and peace time, Obama being another one. His deck of cards of who will be targeted for death by Hellfire missiles fired from UAV's (layman term, drones) and politically correct ROE (Rules of Engagement) forced upon our troops in Afghanistan that don't favor our troops but favor the enemy that are causing our troops to bleed and die.

    But for conspiracy theories, what do you expect when there's little transparency with Obama and his administration ! Even the birth certificate issue, why didn't he just produce his birth certificate back in 2008 instead of dividing America ? Even today we know little about who Barack Obama is. You can see it in his face as if he's hiding something. He has all the signs of being a narcissist and we know he's a liar.

    Thirty-six percent of the surveyed voters think the president is possibly “hiding important information about his background and early life,” the Fairleigh Dickinson University PublicMind survey found.

    More than a third of Americans believe that President Barack Obama might be hiding something, according to a new poll.

    Sixty-four percent of Republicans think the president isn't coming clean, 33 percent of independents agree, and 14 percent of Democrats say Obama is hiding something.

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    When you have 1/3 of America thinking Obama is hiding something, it's natural to have conspiracy theories unless the entire country is drinking the kool-aid.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    I'm not going to blame the Democrats of the 1970s for the state of the CIA in 2013.
    Well the laws that were enacted during the 1970's that has prevented the CIA to do their job are still on the books.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    In how many of those attacks did the president go missing and allow Americans to be abandoned?
    Hard to say where the president was but most likely he was either at his ranch or golfing.

    How many times has an American president done nothing while Americans were being murdered in an eight hour battle?
    I give up, how many times? I don't think the president called in the troops or back up for any of those embassy attacks, if thats what you mean.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Those were not cross border operations. Tripoli is inside Libya. Even the drones were flying within Libya airspace.

    I specifically refer to armed cross border operations coming out of the med or Italy. I am not aware of where other US forces were that could have been used.

    The attack took a third of a day. Setting fire to the consulate should have been enough provocation for the President to order overwhelming support. Instead the President went missing for eight hours and then lied and lied and lied.

    And you support him. I cannot fathom why.
    I'm sorry is Germany inside Libya? I had assumed that a military flight from Germany to Libya would count as a cross border operation, in fact it would count as at least three.

    And the State Department's official declassified investigation states multiple times that enough time for an armed military response did not exist, you claim otherwise. I don't know what to tell you, what source or at least what reasoning do you have to say that the State Department is wrong? You haven't provided a source and you haven't explained your reasoning. AND since I've shown that it doesn't take a President to authorize cross border operations what exactly would you have him do again? If you wanted him to personally make that call it would only take LONGER for those flights and other actions to be made, since instead of General you have to go all the way to the President. Is that what you would have wanted?

    I'm not supporting anything but facts, if those destroy your arguments well than that's your fault for coming up with bad arguments and being ignorant. :/

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    You got it mostly right Mustachio. There was a cover up at the beginning by the Obama administration, they wanted the American people to think it was all about a video because they didn't want the American people to know the truth that unlike what Obama has been saying that Al Qaeda was on the run, that Al Qaeda was decimated, the truth is, Obama was lying on the campaign trail.

    If it was all about a video, you don't send in the Marines. But if it was Al Qaeda you do send in the Marines. If Obama would have acted, it would have compromised his reelection campaign. His platform was, Bin Laden was dead, the auto industry is alive and Al Qaeda was on the run.

    We have to assume that at least 52 % of Americans are unaware that Obama's Middle East foreign policies have been a complete failure. Compared to four years ago, the entire Middle East is a basket case today. The Arab Spring that Obama supported doesn't smell like spring time in the Middle East. During the past four years of the Obama administration, Al Qaeda has spread it's base of operations all across the Middle East and North Africa not to mention other radical Islamist factions and the Muslim Brotherhood has gained significant power during the Obama administration.

    Do you think if more Americans were more informed, that Obama would have been given a second chance ?
    I feel ambivalent in regard to what you're saying. On one hand, I think that the amazing hope we witnessed in places like Libya and Egypt provided evidence that our foreign policy should embrace a "less is more" strategy. Younger generations will transform their own countries, both modernizing them and bringing them closer to a positive relationship with America. On the other hand, what we witnessed wound up as more of a revolving door than a revolution.

    But then, if the Middle East is hopeless, we're only going to inflame anti-American sentiment with our presence there. At the end of the day, that's the problem. The policies of the Bush administration created a huge backlash against America and it is those kind of policies that wind up most detrimental. I'm not trying to justify inadequate foreign policy, I'm trying to discern between what is and isn't adequate and it's very difficult. So to answer your question, no, I don't think most Americans believe we can stop anti-American radicals with brute force (unless we kill every terrorist's entire family as well) and I don't think if people were more informed about the current state of "the war on terror" they would have moved to Romney.
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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I was talking about US troops.
    Oh, sure. 17k remaining personel and a continuted committment to cooperation = "Kicked their ass out!"

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    President is just following the Reagan tradition!

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    And what tradition would that be ?

    >" According to Ronald Reagan himself, as told to his trusted long-time friend and U.S. Attorney General Edwin Meese, the biggest mistake of his presidency was signing the 1986 amnesty for what turned out to be more than half the five million illegal immigrants in the country. Reagan was uncomfortable with the amnesty but was persuaded by some of the leaders of his own party (still living) that it would only affect a small number of illegal immigrants and would assure that Congress would follow through with more vigorous enforcement of U.S. immigration laws. The misnamed Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986 was touted by its supporters as “comprehensive immigration reform” that would grant amnesty only to a few long-settled immigrants and strengthen border security and internal immigration enforcement against employers who were hiring illegal immigrants.

    Internal enforcement was critical to Reagan. He knew that the real key to stopping illegal immigration was to cut off the job magnet at the employment place. He was also honest enough to call what he believed would only be a small amnesty by its real name—amnesty. He did not try to deceive the American people into thinking it was not really an amnesty, a deception much in vogue with many politicians today. "< Ed Meese Says Reagan Regretted 1986 Amnesty | VDARE.com

    The Reagan tradition as in not trying to deceive the American people ? Obama is no Reagan.
    You're floundering.

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