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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Do John McCain remember any of these before President Obama beat him ?

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    But no problem with the president leading the nation into an almost decade long war based on bad intel, despite all the warnings that Iraq was not a threat to the US, right..................!
    Well see that's just the thing.....the issue is here is Benghazi and it is under this President and HIS Administration and Those People He picked to Allegedly Lead his Policy along the way. This is what McCain is talking about. He isn't wallowing in the past as those issues do not have to do with what took place here. National Security and Interests was put at risk just over any CIA operations alone. Especially if any clandestine affairs was dealing with those Weapons that magically made it to Syria.

    This is not about Bush, Iraq, Afghanistan.....unless you count Iraq and Afghanistan in with the Correlation of Obama dropping the Ball on the Anniversary of 911. Which then would include what took place in Egypt. Which was premeditated by One of the Highest Ranking Sunni Alleged Holy Men in Egypt. Who used Social networking to call on all to rise up and Protest the US not just in Egypt but 23 other Muslim Countries. Which the US has not even asked to have him brought in for questioning. Which was able to take place due to the policy that Obama and Clinton had implemented throughout the ME.

    Also once again you bring up intel during the Bush Administration. At that time Other Foreign governments were not required to share any intel with us. Even if we were their ally. Nor was Any of those outside the US that were involved in any Law Enforcement operations which involved the same people we were looking for. Prime example was the French Interpol.....who had agents in many other countries. So you can thank Bush for forcing the French to Comply with others over the sharing of intel. Especially with any clear and imminent attack in motion on the US or any of our Allies.

    Even within our own Organizations of Intel and LE's. Were not Sharing any type of Intel with one another. Not even our Military Intels were sharing info unless ordered to do so. Course Obama doesn't have that excuse. As all are in contact and on the same page allegedly.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    and you have the opposite problem.

    I have great interest in what actually happened. The president said he would have a thorough investigation so he could find out what he did. Well? What did he do?

    Who, in your opinion, can order cross border military operations?
    Exactly.....who is in custody? Who has justice been brought to? Where is the Autopsy on Stevens Body? Where are the statements from the other 20 Survivors? Why isn't the Story of the Navy Seals Battle for 7hrs not being told? 2 Separate committees finding blatant disregard for Actual Warning Signs which had included a previous attack.

    National Security and Interests put at risk. 7hrs of film. Now General Dempsey putting it squarely on Clinton's azz. Her State Dept.....her people. Plus she knew what it was like since Gadhafi was ousted. Clear negligence in leaving our people at Risk. Plus lets not forget Direct Involvement with the TNC.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by oncewas View Post
    Do John McCain remember any of these before President Obama beat him ?

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    Yeah, the numbers are misleading. In some of the above listed attacks, the person compiling the stats included the people who died while attacking the embassy. Pretty irresponsible, or lazy . . . or worse . . . on purpose.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by oncewas View Post
    Do John McCain remember any of these before President Obama beat him ?

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    You should have deleted your post. The "Blue Street Journal" !!! You have to do better than that.

    Jan. 22, 2002. This was an attack near the American consulate. No Americans killed.

    June 14, 2002, This was a truck bomb attack outside the walls of the Consulate.

    Feb. 28, 2003. This was an attack outside of the Embassy by gunmen.

    June 30, 2004.This was a suicide bomber attack out side of the Embassy.

    Dec. 6, 2004.This was an Al Qaeda attack upon a diplomatic compound, not an Embassy or consulate.

    March 6, 2006.This was a car bomb that blew up outside the walls of a U.S. Consulate.

    Sept. 12, 2006. This was a unsuccessful "raid" by gunmen who never entered the U.S. Embassy.

    March 18, 2008. This was a mortar attack against the U.S. Embassy.

    July 9, 2008. This was an unsuccessful attack by gunmen upon the U.S. Consulate.

    Sept. 17, 2008. This was a car bomb attack outside the walls of the Embassy.

    The looney Blue Street for some reason for got to mention the January 12, 2007 attack by European liberals using an RPG on the U.S. Embassy in Athens, Greece.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The 4 accomplished nothing. The 5k brought human rights and democracy to Iraq.
    The GOP war brought them tens of thousands of dead and a different corrupt government. That's why they told us to get the **** out of their country!
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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well see that's just the thing.....the issue is here is Benghazi and it is under this President and HIS Administration and Those People He picked to Allegedly Lead his Policy along the way. This is what McCain is talking about. He isn't wallowing in the past as those issues do not have to do with what took place here. National Security and Interests was put at risk just over any CIA operations alone. Especially if any clandestine affairs was dealing with those Weapons that magically made it to Syria.

    This is not about Bush, Iraq, Afghanistan.....unless you count Iraq and Afghanistan in with the Correlation of Obama dropping the Ball on the Anniversary of 911. Which then would include what took place in Egypt. Which was premeditated by One of the Highest Ranking Sunni Alleged Holy Men in Egypt. Who used Social networking to call on all to rise up and Protest the US not just in Egypt but 23 other Muslim Countries. Which the US has not even asked to have him brought in for questioning. Which was able to take place due to the policy that Obama and Clinton had implemented throughout the ME.

    Also once again you bring up intel during the Bush Administration. At that time Other Foreign governments were not required to share any intel with us. Even if we were their ally. Nor was Any of those outside the US that were involved in any Law Enforcement operations which involved the same people we were looking for. Prime example was the French Interpol.....who had agents in many other countries. So you can thank Bush for forcing the French to Comply with others over the sharing of intel. Especially with any clear and imminent attack in motion on the US or any of our Allies.

    Even within our own Organizations of Intel and LE's. Were not Sharing any type of Intel with one another. Not even our Military Intels were sharing info unless ordered to do so. Course Obama doesn't have that excuse. As all are in contact and on the same page allegedly.

    A majority of Congressional Democrats didn't fall for the false intel and voted no on Authorization of Force in Iraq, as had the UN before.
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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    You should have deleted your post. The "Blue Street Journal" !!! You have to do better than that.

    Jan. 22, 2002. This was an attack near the American consulate. No Americans killed.

    June 14, 2002, This was a truck bomb attack outside the walls of the Consulate.

    Feb. 28, 2003. This was an attack outside of the Embassy by gunmen.

    June 30, 2004.This was a suicide bomber attack out side of the Embassy.

    Dec. 6, 2004.This was an Al Qaeda attack upon a diplomatic compound, not an Embassy or consulate.

    March 6, 2006.This was a car bomb that blew up outside the walls of a U.S. Consulate.

    Sept. 12, 2006. This was a unsuccessful "raid" by gunmen who never entered the U.S. Embassy.

    March 18, 2008. This was a mortar attack against the U.S. Embassy.

    July 9, 2008. This was an unsuccessful attack by gunmen upon the U.S. Consulate.

    Sept. 17, 2008. This was a car bomb attack outside the walls of the Embassy.

    The looney Blue Street for some reason for got to mention the January 12, 2007 attack by European liberals using an RPG on the U.S. Embassy in Athens, Greece.
    Yet in most instances . . . the embassy or embassy personnel (protecting the embassy) were attacked (no matter how dishonest the numbers are) . . . the attacks occurred, and an insistence the walls must be breached before it is outrageous is in my opinion . . . intellectually dishonest. But . . . it was because they hated our freedom . . . and most that died were not American. No outrage. Unless, citizens from other countries die like in Kenya and Tanzania under Bill Clinton. Weakness under Clinton . . . under Bush? It's a cost of doing war. I truly dislike selective outrage.

    I don't have outrage for either Bush or Obama . . . I do not hold outrage for Clinton either. This is the cost of doing foreign policy in host countries that cannot always control their people. Stop already.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The 4 accomplished nothing. The 5k brought human rights and democracy to Iraq.
    You forgot the civil war between Sunni and Shia.

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    Re: McCain claims ‘massive cover-up’ on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    One of the questions being asked and Hillery Clinton, the State Department, Barack Obama and the White House refuse to answer, why was there a U.S. Consulate in Benghazi ? Diplomatic business is conducted at Embassies not at consulates. The U.S. Embassy for Libya is located in Tripoli. Consulates are for convenience of U.S. citizens who are on tourist or business visas and for issuing visas to foreign nationals. To the best of my knowledge, Benghazi wasn't a tourist destination for Americans. Benghazi doesn't even have a beach or any waves surfable ! What was the business that was taking place at the consulate in Benghazi, issuing tourist visas to Al Qaeda ?
    Seriously, I have no idea how this reply contains even one word that is applicable to my post generating this reply. Not one word. Not a one. Stop . . . please stop . . . for yourself . . . stop. Give me outrage that is equivalent when the president isn't named Obama. Between Obama and all other presidents from 1958 there have been 23-attacks on American Embassies/Consulates across the world. There were 12 in the GW Bush 8-years of business. Hhhmmmmmnn . . . I wonder how foreign policy can play out over several years?

    Me asking myself: Do you mean what happened 10 . . . 20 . . . or even 30-years ago can affect how things happen in the present?

    Then I answer myself: "Yes, things that happened many years ago, and even in the recent past can effect things." But then I add to myself, "A lot of people do not have the ability to remember past the last 30-second soundbite."

    Again . . . I am not mad at any of these presidents for the irresponsibility of being in power when our interests were attacked. Cost of doing business.

    My thought on why the "Benghazi Conspiracy" exists.

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