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Radio police talking of burning dorner's house down

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I'm just impressed Obama didn't hit him with a drone missile.
 
Nothing the LAPD does surprises me.

Sadly, I agree with you.

Their sordid history, ripe with corruption, has even made the NYPD look like a better program.

No way on God's green earth would I live in the clutches of the LAPD, or any large metropolitan area.

The mistrust of the LAPD has been duly earned by their behavior.
 
It's pretty hard for me to give a damn.
 
Sadly, I agree with you.

Their sordid history, ripe with corruption, has even made the NYPD look like a better program.

No way on God's green earth would I live in the clutches of the LAPD, or any large metropolitan area.

The mistrust of the LAPD has been duly earned by their behavior.

I will say this on behalf of the LAPD, they are working in a media mecca and anything that they do wrong is bound to get FAR more attention than if that same thing were done in some backwater. I'm sure that the majority of cops in the LAPD are good and competent but those few that screw up sure seem to have a tendency to do so in spectacular fashion.
 
Having read part of his manifesto, it's obvious that something happened, and with the level of corruption in the LAPD, I was honestly hoping that whatever happened would have been uncovered before he had to die over it. Granted, what he did was so wrong, and two wrongs don't make a right. But it's bothersome when somebody of his calibre resorts to this, simply to attempt to clear his name. Investigations have been reopened to try to find out what happened, but unless the investigations are conducted by an independent organization (a news organization, not an IA investigation), it's going to be hard to believe any of the results wouldn't be tainted.
 
**** Chris Dorner. I have no love for cops but you don't go cop hunting unless you've got a death wish.
 
The burning comment referred to tear gas.
 
The burning comment referred to tear gas.

Yeah - that's what I was thinking. :shrug: Do people really think they'd be so stupid as to actually set the place on fire on purpose after discussing it over the airwaves? Come on - think, people.
 
Ya, I have one...

Has any prominent left politician *insert Obama* come out with one word of sympathy/compassion for Dorner's victims?

Don't know - I haven't been watching the news . . . only reading it online.

When it comes to crazed killers no one ever talks about the victims - the killer is more interesting. I don't even know how many he killed.
 
Yeah - that's what I was thinking. :shrug: Do people really think they'd be so stupid as to actually set the place on fire on purpose after discussing it over the airwaves? Come on - think, people.

The fact that this was what was after the media was told to stop filming, I doubt they expected that the media was still listening to the radio...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po9EaU7ZjxI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Maybe this will clear it up, police saying "burn that mother****er down", and add that to the section of the first video where they describe lighting the fire "like I told you in private", then he's told to put the burner, comes back saying its lit... And th place burns down.

Are you serious?!?

If they came and admitted the fact that this guy had killed cops, resisted arrest, etc... At a certain point they have to end things while keeping people out of harms way, so with honesty I wouldnt even be all that mad... But you actually believe the story told after that.... Wow.
 
"Burner is the nomenclature of the incendiary delivery device for tear gas. They already tried the safer, less effective, non-incendiary tear gas, and it failed to force evacuation. The next step is the burner, and it does have a fire risk, but it will not start a huge fire instantaneously. The suspect had plenty of time to evacuate. The comment that the burner had been delivered and a fire had started happens at 1:30 on the audio, the single shot from inside the cabin happened at 3:07.

The suspect had penty of time to evacuate the cabin. HE, the SUSPECT, chose not to evacuate.

It is not like they napalmed the building and it was immediately incinerated.

Like I have said on other threads, cops routinely violate people's rights, innocent people, and we should be angry about that. This was not innocent people and his rights were not violated.
 
Has any prominent left politician *insert Obama* come out with one word of sympathy/compassion for Dorner's victims?
Has anyone? Everything I've read here seems to obsess over the suspect and the police, with little or nothing about the victims beyond determining whether they were involved in Dorner's sacking or police officers and therefore "deserved it".
 
Yeah - that's what I was thinking. :shrug: Do people really think they'd be so stupid as to actually set the place on fire on purpose after discussing it over the airwaves? Come on - think, people.

Well they were stupid enough to fire a military veteran sniper with a 3-man panel in which two of them were affiliated with his partner whom he lodged a complaint against for kicking a homeless guy in the face.

So yeah, I think they could be that stupid.
 
Like I have said on other threads, cops routinely violate people's rights, innocent people, and we should be angry about that. This was not innocent people and his rights were not violated.

Except guilty people have rights too. Such as to due process, no cruel and unusual punishment, and trial by a jury of his peers.

The LAPD burning a man alive in a cabin is a violation of those rights - and is more egregious when his acts were done because of corruption in the LAPD.
 
Except guilty people have rights too. Such as to due process, no cruel and unusual punishment, and trial by a jury of his peers.

The LAPD burning a man alive in a cabin is a violation of those rights - and is more egregious when his acts were done because of corruption in the LAPD.

Well, he's dead now. It's a risk you take when you wage war on the police.
 
Well, he's dead now. It's a risk you take when you wage war on the police.

I guess the suspect is (was I guess) claiming he never did anything wrong. And that the "manifesto" was involved in something for acting with other person.

Via some fax that was sent into a local news joint supposedly.

“It’s not me!,” Dorner says in the statement. “I have been out of town on vacation and just heard the news that I am blamed for killings I did not and never would commit. This “manifesto” the police are using against me is just a few ideas for a screenplay I am working on with my former colleague Mark Fuhrman. Tell my mom I’m OK. Once again… the cops have it all wrong…. I will soon be in touch.”
Reading about this note, his note with the church money and his previous scenario where he ratted out on a cop that kicked someone in the face.... Something smells fishy?
 
Except guilty people have rights too. Such as to due process, no cruel and unusual punishment, and trial by a jury of his peers.

The LAPD burning a man alive in a cabin is a violation of those rights - and is more egregious when his acts were done because of corruption in the LAPD.

Well said.
 
**** Chris Dorner. I have no love for cops but you don't go cop hunting unless you've got a death wish.

True to a point.
 
Except guilty people have rights too. Such as to due process, no cruel and unusual punishment, and trial by a jury of his peers.

The LAPD burning a man alive in a cabin is a violation of those rights - and is more egregious when his acts were done because of corruption in the LAPD.

and the guilty people (person) could have left the cabin or gave up once law enforcement had him cornered. Could have gave up with the first round of tear gas, long before a fire. If they are not guilty, the trail would show that, correct?

Personally, in this case the LE officers saved the tax payers some money. No need for mental evaluation, no need for an expensive trail, no need for the cost of life without parol.
 
and the guilty people (person) could have left the cabin or gave up once law enforcement had him cornered. Could have gave up with the first round of tear gas, long before a fire. If they are not guilty, the trail would show that, correct?

Personally, in this case the LE officers saved the tax payers some money. No need for mental evaluation, no need for an expensive trail, no need for the cost of life without parol.

You are assuming the LAPD would have allowed him to surrender. There is the great possibility that the LAPD would have executed him had he tried to surrendered, either in vengeance (not justice) against him targeting other LAPD officers, to prevent him from exposing the corruption within the LAPD, or both.

And no, plenty of innocent people are found guilty all the time, mostly because the government skews the procedures to favor prosecutors over suspects. Not the guilty - merely suspects.
 
You are assuming the LAPD would have allowed him to surrender. There is the great possibility that the LAPD would have executed him had he tried to surrendered, either in vengeance (not justice) against him targeting other LAPD officers, to prevent him from exposing the corruption within the LAPD, or both.

And no, plenty of innocent people are found guilty all the time, mostly because the government skews the procedures to favor prosecutors over suspects. Not the guilty - merely suspects.

and you are not assuming they would not.

So you see not personal responsibility on the part of Dorner?
 
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