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    Re: More U.S. women using the "morning-after" pill: report

    I am curious though - did they expect numbers to decline?

    That's sort of redundant. . . and moot. Like pointing out "more US women use condoms than in 1950" . . . well no ****. The longer a form of BC is around the more often it will be used.

    It's not like the numbers could have possibly DECLINED once it became readily available, you know
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    Re: More U.S. women using the "morning-after" pill: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Two extremely important factors involved here.

    #1 - time
    #2 - affordability

    Requiring a prescription will greatly effect both of those factors.

    Yes?
    Certainly, and the morning after pill is somewhat unique by it's very nature. None of that is good reason to dismiss the factor of safety. I honestly don't know the medical details but I think the emotive politics surrounding the issue brings as much risk of a push towards dangerous flexibility as there clearly is of excessive restrictions. If you're going to promote a relaxation of the provision of morning after pills, I think you should include the safety factor too.

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    Re: More U.S. women using the "morning-after" pill: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post

    A responsible female gets the morning after pill and puts it away for use whenever she needs it - why anyone would sequester their self to all the many flaws of 'trying to hurry up and get a prescription filled' is beyond me . . . everything from pharmacies simply not wanting to carry it to medical insurance complications. If it's THAT serious then DON'T leave it for the last minute..
    Makes 100% perfect sense and I'd like to think the vast majority of adults are thinking this way.


    However, we also know that those who struggle to afford just about everything, and with less formal education than most are not going to be thinking far ahead for things like that.

    So the timing thing.....a lady has sex Friday evening and the condom breaks. She can't get appointment at doctor until Monday morning and at best they might be able to squeeze her into schedule late Monday afternoon. That's pushing the 72 hour limit, and that's before she has to get to pharmacy.....

    Would an emergency room visit cover a broken condom morning-after pill visit in that situation?

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    Re: More U.S. women using the "morning-after" pill: report

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Certainly, and the morning after pill is somewhat unique by it's very nature. None of that is good reason to dismiss the factor of safety. I honestly don't know the medical details but I think the emotive politics surrounding the issue brings as much risk of a push towards dangerous flexibility as there clearly is of excessive restrictions. If you're going to promote a relaxation of the provision of morning after pills, I think you should include the safety factor too.
    I may be wrong, but I'm thinking the vast majority of resistance to the morning-after pill is from a "moral" and/or "religious" point of view regarding promiscuity and such things....

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    Re: More U.S. women using the "morning-after" pill: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Makes 100% perfect sense and I'd like to think the vast majority of adults are thinking this way.


    However, we also know that those who struggle to afford just about everything, and with less formal education than most are not going to be thinking far ahead for things like that.

    So the timing thing.....a lady has sex Friday evening and the condom breaks. She can't get appointment at doctor until Monday morning and at best they might be able to squeeze her into schedule late Monday afternoon. That's pushing the 72 hour limit, and that's before she has to get to pharmacy.....

    Would an emergency room visit cover a broken condom morning-after pill visit in that situation?
    No - poor is not an excuse. Never an excuse . . . I don't give anyone that luxury. All available forms of birth control are covered by welfare, available through planned parenthood and so forth.

    Our country does a valiant job to take care of the poor - only laziness keeps such things from getting to the ones who need it the most.

    Again - health issues are a serious concern. If we're going to push that anything be OTC it should be regular, routine pills and the like.
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    Re: More U.S. women using the "morning-after" pill: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I may be wrong, but I'm thinking the vast majority of resistance to the morning-after pill is from a "moral" and/or "religious" point of view regarding promiscuity and such things....
    Quite likely, certainly in the US. That doesn't change my point that is no good reason to completely ignore the safety factor when pushing to change the situation. Just because something is restricted for bad reasons doesn't automatically mean there are no good reasons to maintain at least some of those restrictions.

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    Re: More U.S. women using the "morning-after" pill: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    If we're going to push that anything be OTC it should be regular, routine pills and the like.
    No argument there. Not from me anyway.

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    Re: More U.S. women using the "morning-after" pill: report

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Quite likely, certainly in the US. That doesn't change my point that is no good reason to completely ignore the safety factor when pushing to change the situation. Just because something is restricted for bad reasons doesn't automatically mean there are no good reasons to maintain at least some of those restrictions.
    There's a ca-gillion dangerous things for sale in the world that don't require a doctor's visit.

    Again, I'm not suggesting they be doled out like tic-tacs to any female who enters a store....

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    Re: More U.S. women using the "morning-after" pill: report

    Since the morning after pill is OTC, but kept behind the counter, a pharmacist can exercise the right to refuse giving it to you. A few pharmacists where I am at see it as against their religion, so they won't sell it to customers.
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    Re: More U.S. women using the "morning-after" pill: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Balls View Post
    Since the morning after pill is OTC, but kept behind the counter, a pharmacist can exercise the right to refuse giving it to you. A few pharmacists where I am at see it as against their religion, so they won't sell it to customers.
    I don't mind that - as long as it's posted somewhere. Nothing is more annoying than going through the process of getting it filled only then to find out they wont (if they remember to address it up front)
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