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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't see, without constant monitoring, how this would really impact our crimes rate. There are a multitude of socioeconomic factors which go into crime stats that are not addressed through the use of drone planes.
    Nighttime survellience would definitely help. I never said the drones would stop crime, but I do think it would decrease crime (obviously I can't give a percentage of how much) and help law enforcment prosecute criminals that operate on the street.

    And of course I'm talking about the survellience ONLY drones and not military weapon equiped. Also not going to do the slippery slope argument.

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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Yeah, except that soon enough they'll be shooting at us from helicopters.
    Again, I'm not going to do the slippery slope argument. You can say that for just about anything. You can say "Oh we can't have a military because eventually it will be used against us, oh no!!!".

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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Nighttime survellience would definitely help. I never said the drones would stop crime, but I do think it would decrease crime (obviously I can't give a percentage of how much) and help law enforcment prosecute criminals that operate on the street.

    And of course I'm talking about the survellience ONLY drones and not military weapon equiped. Also not going to do the slippery slope argument.
    I think the only direct affect it will have is to increase the efficiency through which we jail our population. Which stands as the highest percentage per capita than any other country.
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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think the only direct affect it will have is to increase the efficiency through which we jail our population. Which stands as the highest percentage per capita than any other country.
    The jail issue is an entirely different issue. We should stop jailing people for stupid **** like drug posession and legalize it. Either that or build more jails.

    Either way, much like survellience cameras in stores have helped in catching shoplifters, a drone will help law enforcement catch and prosecute criminals.

    The alternative is to let criminals keep doing what they are doing and encourage more because they is no watching the streets.

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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The jail issue is an entirely different issue. We should stop jailing people for stupid **** like drug posession and legalize it. Either that or build more jails.

    Either way, much like survellience cameras in stores have helped in catching shoplifters, a drone will help law enforcement catch and prosecute criminals.

    The alternative is to let criminals keep doing what they are doing and encourage more because they is no watching the streets.
    So government keeps an ever watchful and constant eye on us or we're all in danger because nothing will keep the crime rate down?
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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The drone/drones won't be armed.

    They'll just zero in to locate him plus drones are a lot more cost effective......
    Its the continuing merger of local law enforcement and military that leaves me unsettled.
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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    I think it would be bad ass to have my own drone. I wonder what they cost?
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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I can understand how some see it as a slippery slope with "big brother" getting bigger, but I also see the slippery slope of crime rates increasing without them as well.
    We need a balance. How much "safety" is required before it is enough? The State will always push for more. It is up to the People to be put a check on that.
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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So government keeps an ever watchful and constant eye on us or we're all in danger because nothing will keep the crime rate down?
    Isn't that what law enforcment does now on the ground with patrols? Drones just cover the sky doing the same thing. Unless of course you are against police officers patrolling as well. If so, there really isn't anything more to discuss as we just have differeing opinions.

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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    We need a balance. How much "safety" is required before it is enough? The State will always push for more. It is up to the People to be put a check on that.
    And I think the check on that is to not allow militarized weapons. However, using drones (if turned over to police departments with no weapons on it) is an ok thing for me. I look at it much like police officers patrolling on the ground, these will the sky.

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