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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If the government sells it to local police departments how is a survellence drone (no missles) any different than helicopters?
    helicopters should be limited in use. Drones are going to be easier and cheaper to use in general and constant surveillance. And no weapons for now. The government does not need more tools of big brother oppression. Drones should be illegal in the US. 100%.
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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If the government sells it to local police departments how is a survellence drone (no missles) any different than helicopters?
    Sure they wont be armed, at first. Gotta get a seemingly harmless foot through the door before you do what every "conspiracy theorist" predicted you'll do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    helicopters should be limited in use. Drones are going to be easier and cheaper to use in general and constant surveillance. And no weapons for now. The government does not need more tools of big brother oppression. Drones should be illegal in the US. 100%.
    IKR, as if Cameras everywhere and everyone carrying a GPS/Microphone weren't enough?
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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    helicopters should be limited in use. Drones are going to be easier and cheaper to use in general and constant surveillance. And no weapons for now. The government does not need more tools of big brother oppression. Drones should be illegal in the US. 100%.
    Well I see your point and I do understand it, I just don't agree with it. With limited police officers patrolling and the crime rate in urban areas, I would see it as a plus to help prevent or catch criminals.

    I can understand how some see it as a slippery slope with "big brother" getting bigger, but I also see the slippery slope of crime rates increasing without them as well.

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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    IKR, as if Cameras everywhere and everyone carrying a GPS/Microphone weren't enough?
    In most cases where there are armed criminals, you usually don't see a civilian trying to capture a crime on video and many cameras are being utilized for the stores and not outside where a lot of crimes take place.

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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    In most cases where there are armed criminals, you usually don't see a civilian trying to capture a crime on video and many cameras are being utilized for the stores and not outside where a lot of crimes take place.
    I was talking about a concern of big brother, not a need for more of it. I want fewer cameras.
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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I can understand how some see it as a slippery slope with "big brother" getting bigger, but I also see the slippery slope of crime rates increasing without them as well.
    That is just stupid. You are basically giving up privacy for safety. That doesn't even make any sense.

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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That is just stupid. You are basically giving up privacy for safety. That doesn't even make any sense.
    No, you are going down a slippery slope. Do you consider police officers that are patrolling the streets as an invasion of privacy? They pretty much do on the ground what the drones do in the sky.

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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    helicopters should be limited in use. Drones are going to be easier and cheaper to use in general and constant surveillance. And no weapons for now. The government does not need more tools of big brother oppression. Drones should be illegal in the US. 100%.
    Im not saying everyone is nefarious and this would defiantly happen. But drones open the possibility of "accidents". As in fake accidents (thats what the qoutes accent towards ) A helicopter pilot isnt going to go, "Hey ima just crash my survaylence heli into this bastard cuz I dont want him to get away." If no one is driving the thing personally it could lead to the offshoot and extreme cases of justice/vengeance killing "accidents" and assassination "accidents".

    The fact that people flew drones into people would probably be enough fact to piss the public off enough to reject it but I could imagine dip****s trying it.

    When cops spend more time collecting info and trying to construe it into something instead of stopping crimes in action then it could be abused.
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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Well I see your point and I do understand it, I just don't agree with it. With limited police officers patrolling and the crime rate in urban areas, I would see it as a plus to help prevent or catch criminals.

    I can understand how some see it as a slippery slope with "big brother" getting bigger, but I also see the slippery slope of crime rates increasing without them as well.
    I don't see, without constant monitoring, how this would really impact our crimes rate. There are a multitude of socioeconomic factors which go into crime stats that are not addressed through the use of drone planes.
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    Re: US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No, you are going down a slippery slope. Do you consider police officers that are patrolling the streets as an invasion of privacy? They pretty much do on the ground what the drones do in the sky.
    Yeah, except that soon enough they'll be shooting at us from helicopters.










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