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    The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Critics of voter ID and other laws cracking down on voter fraud claim they’re unnecessary because fraud is nonexistent. For instance, Brennan Center attorneys Michael Waldman and Justin Levitt claimed last year: “A person casting two votes risks jail time and a fine for minimal gain. Proven voter fraud, statistically, happens about as often as death by lightning strike.”

    Well, lightning is suddenly all over Cincinnati, Ohio. The Hamilton County Board of Elections is investigating 19 possible cases of alleged voter fraud that occurred when Ohio was a focal point of the 2012 presidential election. A total of 19 voters and nine witnesses are part of the probe.

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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Wow. Two known cases (according to the article) and one of them might have been an accident, not fraud. It's a freaking epidemic.

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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Critics of voter ID and other laws cracking down on voter fraud claim they’re unnecessary because fraud is nonexistent. For instance, Brennan Center attorneys Michael Waldman and Justin Levitt claimed last year: “A person casting two votes risks jail time and a fine for minimal gain. Proven voter fraud, statistically, happens about as often as death by lightning strike.”

    Well, lightning is suddenly all over Cincinnati, Ohio. The Hamilton County Board of Elections is investigating 19 possible cases of alleged voter fraud that occurred when Ohio was a focal point of the 2012 presidential election. A total of 19 voters and nine witnesses are part of the probe.

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    19 cases out of how many voters in Ohio? Besides it is too early to make any conclusions

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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    19 cases out of how many voters in Ohio? Besides it is too early to make any conclusions
    If you read about the specific worker in question it tells a tale that I have witnessed first hand in Cincy. Ohio and Pennsylvania have many questionable practices that need to be addressed and managed. Elections in this country will be a joke until they are.

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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    That's it? That's your example of widespread voter fraud? 19 POSSIBLE cases of voter fraud in a county where 418,894 votes were cast?

    By the way, if you are going to commit voter fraud, voting two ballots and signing your name to each of them, seems to be pretty stupid. It sounds much more like an honest mistake.
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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    That's it? That's your example of widespread voter fraud? 19 POSSIBLE cases of voter fraud in a county where 418,894 votes were cast?

    By the way, if you are going to commit voter fraud, voting two ballots and signing your name to each of them, seems to be pretty stupid. It sounds much more like an honest mistake.
    She admitted to doing both on purpose, no mistake.

    Using your logic we have to assume that arrest we see for illegal drug possession paint a fair picture of all the "actual" drug usage in the country?

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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Before the election, my city had been charging people for voter fraud who had voted or registered illegally because I would see the cases listed in the court reports, but I have never seen an article about it in the paper to link or statistics reported anywhere. I asked around and it was people who were either felons who registered or people who didn't live in the precincts they were voting in.

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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    She admitted to doing both on purpose, no mistake.

    Using your logic we have to assume that arrest we see for illegal drug possession paint a fair picture of all the "actual" drug usage in the country?
    She admitted doing it because she wasn't sure her absentee ballot had arrived. You seem to be one of those people just convinced that voter fraud is rampant. Try dealing with voters some time - as I have done. Especially elderly voters. Nobody willingly risks years in jail just for the opportunity to cast an illegal ballot which has virtually no chance of affecting the result of the election anyway and which is easily detected. Really. Get serious.
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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    If you read about the specific worker in question it tells a tale that I have witnessed first hand in Cincy. Ohio and Pennsylvania have many questionable practices that need to be addressed and managed. Elections in this country will be a joke until they are.
    So you are calling for government to get involved? Correct me if am wrong but I thought libertarians believed in less government, not more?

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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    By the way, if you are going to commit voter fraud, voting two ballots and signing your name to each of them, seems to be pretty stupid. It sounds much more like an honest mistake.
    Yeah, I could see how someone could do that by accident.

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