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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    It is not all about you, grow up.
    You made it about me. You made a bull**** accusation. I'm calling on you to back it up.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    The question is stupid, voter id's do not suppress anyone that wants to vote than someone needing a license to drive.
    Ah. More lies and/or ignorance. Lovely. Let's ask someone who's actually researched this, shall we?

    "Critics of [voter ID] laws (myself included) have doubted both their necessity and their ability to keep elections honest. The only type of fraud that a strict photo ID rule would actually prevent is voter impersonation fraud (I go to the polls pretending to be you), and, in fact, voter impersonation fraud is exceedingly rare. In Indiana, where the Republican-dominated legislature passed one of the first new ID laws in 2005 (on a straight party-line vote), there had been no known instances of voter impersonation in the state’s history. In Texas, a strict ID law was enacted last year, although the 2008 and 2010 elections gave rise to only five formal complaints about voter impersonation (out of 13 million votes cast). “There are more UFO and Bigfoot sightings than documented cases of voter impersonation,” quipped one Texas Democrat. Close inspection of the RNLA’s inventory of election fraud, moreover, has found it to be flawed and misleading; most election experts believe that the greatest threat to election integrity comes from absentee ballots—a threat that would not be addressed by the current laws.

    As importantly, the burdens placed on prospective voters by these ID requirements are not trivial. Men and women who already possess driver’s licenses or passports, of course, will be unaffected. (So too will those in Texas who have permits to carry concealed weapons—since those permits meet the ID requirement.) But citizens who lack such documents will now be obliged to assemble various other pieces of paper (birth certificates, naturalization forms, proof of residence, etc.) and make their way (presumably without a car) to a government office that can issue an official photo ID. Who are these men and women? Studies indicate that they are disproportionately young or elderly, poor, black, and Hispanic; demographically, they are more likely than not to vote Democratic. (In states covered by the Voting Rights Act, such as Texas and South Carolina, the photo ID laws are being challenged by the Department of Justice on the grounds that they disproportionately affect minorities.) The number of people potentially affected is considerable: the Texas secretary of state, for example, estimates that at least 600,000 already registered voters do not possess the documents to cast ballots in November. New York University’s respected Brennan Center for Justice has estimated that a total of more than five million people may lack the requisite identification documents in states that have passed new ID laws."
    -http://harvardmagazine.com/2012/07/voter-suppression-returns

    So, in a nutshell - Voter ID laws only impact the least likely possible type of voter fraud (voter impersonation), do nothing to address the more likely (but still extremely rare) problem of absentee ballot fraud (the type specifically mentioned in the article in the OP), and disproportionately impact Democratic voters.

    Yeah. Clearly justice in action.

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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Some of them actually admitted it! Not that you would know or want to hear, since it's "only Libs" that do dishonest things in your version of reality.

    Convicted felon voted, and there's no turning back | StarTribune.com

    That's one guy. So let's say 50 more in Minnesota out of "thousands" who didn't admit it and your talking points fall apart pretty quickly.
    Thank you for admitting there's a need to do something to curtail fraud in our elections.

    Your support for strict Voter ID laws is noted.

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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I love it when liberals and progressives quote the Huffington Post, New York Times, and Media Matters as gospel.
    I don't pay attention to the huffington post or media matters. But the New York Times has far more credibility as a source of news then some unknown author at the daily caller, or some fantasy espoused by the drudge report

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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayno View Post
    Thank you for admitting there's a need to do something to curtail fraud in our elections.

    Your support for strict Voter ID laws is noted.
    I support doing something to curtail fraud. Voter ID = Assault Weapons Ban. Doesn't stop anything.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    A non- answer. Where are all of the court cases from defeated, supposedly cheated, candidates?

    Answer - they don't happen because in court you actually have to produce 'evidence'.
    As stated or inferred previously, it takes a special kind of person to believe that 'bad things' that happen in other countries can't and do not happen here as well.

    But it's special people that believe such things that the politicians love, and wish there were more of.
    "nah i think the way cons want to turn this into a political issue is funny though" - Philly Boss

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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    You made it about me. You made a bull**** accusation. I'm calling on you to back it up.
    Please show us where it was about you. LOL!

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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayno View Post
    LOL.........

    You need to provide a picture ID to obtain Government benefits......

    You know, folks living in poverty, the elderly, college students.

    Just another excuse to retain rampant fraud in our voting process.
    What is wrong with using a social security check as proof in order to vote? Or using student I.ds as proof? Or court documents or birth certificates?

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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I don't pay attention to the huffington post or media matters. But the New York Times has far more credibility as a source of news then some unknown author at the daily caller, or some fantasy espoused by the drudge report
    NO........they don't.

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    Re: The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    NO........they don't.
    Translation: "I only trust sources that confirm my pre-existing biases."


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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