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    DHS Purchases 21.6 Million More Rounds of Ammunition

    I don't usually consider Infowars as my goto for reliable information, considering it a quasi-news source. That being said, there are sufficient reliable links in the article below to warrant a further investigation. The links do provide enough provocation to ask the question -- Why is the Dept of Homeland buying enougn bullets to sustain a 30 year war?

    DHS Purchases 21.6 Million More Rounds of Ammunition Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

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    Re: A 30 Year War With Whom Exactly?

    WW3 maybe. I don't usually buy into conspiracy stuff, but I've been hearing a lot of disturbing things lately from people who are usually pretty level-headed. Not sure how much credence to put in it, but it makes you wonder what might be just over the horizon and coming fast.

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    Re: DHS Purchases 21.6 Million More Rounds of Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I don't usually consider Infowars as my goto for reliable information, considering it a quasi-news source. That being said, there are sufficient reliable links in the article below to warrant a further investigation. The links do provide enough provocation to ask the question -- Why is the Dept of Homeland buying enougn bullets to sustain a 30 year war?

    DHS Purchases 21.6 Million More Rounds of Ammunition Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
    Where is that number coming from?

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    Re: DHS Purchases 21.6 Million More Rounds of Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Where is that number coming from?
    What number are you refering to?

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    Re: A 30 Year War With Whom Exactly?

    Someone showed me this.....

    The writer of the eRumor also alleged that the DHS is raising an army and ordered billions of rounds of ammunition. The DHS oversees agencies that conduct law enforcement, military missions, and immigration enforcement. The U.S. Secret Service, the intelligence agency that was originally under the Department of the Treasury has the responsibility of protecting the President and dignitaries. This agency has been under the blanket of the DHS since March 1, 2003. One agency under the DHS that could be considered to be a major user of weapons and ammunition is the United States Coast Guard.

    The United States Coast Guard (USCG) is on loan to the DHS from the Department of Defense and has enough fire power to protect U.S. ports, chase and apprehend pirates and smugglers and assist in the protection of our military assets and facilities in the Persian Gulf.

    The USCG lists 212 aircraft, various vessels ranging in boats from 18 feet to 47 feet along with a fleet of cutters ranging from 65 feet to 179 feet. The USCG also performs search and rescue for mariners in peril on the water.


    The USCG H-65 Dolphin helicopter in the photo above is usually armed with Single 7.62mm M240B/H machine gun, a 7.62mm shoulder-fired precision weapon and a .50-caliber shoulder-fired precision weapon.


    USCG Cutter Stratton pictured above is one of the newest ships in the fleet can carry USCG Helicopters and has an armament of 57mm Bofors Gun, 1 Phalanx, a CIWS 1B 20mm, four 50 caliber machine guns, as well as two M240B light machine guns. The cutter is also capable of launching 25 Foot Defender Class Boats with gun mounts both forward and aft.

    Other agencies under the DHS, according to their organizational chart, are U.S. Customs & Boarder Protection, U.S. Citizenship & Immigration Services, U.S. Immigrations & Customs Enforcement, U.S. Secret Service, and Transportation Security Administration. Each agency has members who carry and are trained to use weapons.



    The High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWV or "Humvee") are real and some agencies receive training on these armored vehicles designated for Special Response Teams by the DHS. The above photo shows members of U.S. Immigrations & Customs Enforcement in a special training exercise involving armored vehicles.

    Also, FEMA is the training agency for first responders from the local level to agencies under the DHS. So that all agencies speak the same language at the scene of a disaster the Incident Command System was developed for all levels of government as well as private sector and by many nongovernmental organizations......snip~

    FEMA Corps Team Members Are the Modern Day Hitler Youth-Fiction!

    Although this would not explain the buying of Hollow Point Ammunition. As No Agency I know of is using Hollow-points as Standard Issue.

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    Re: DHS Purchases 21.6 Million More Rounds of Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    What number are you refering to?
    Sustaining a 30 year war.

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    Re: DHS Purchases 21.6 Million More Rounds of Ammunition

    Is this why the price of ammo has skyrocketed lately? Jeezus Christ, wth?
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    Re: DHS Purchases 21.6 Million More Rounds of Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Sustaining a 30 year war.
    The article references it.

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    Re: DHS Purchases 21.6 Million More Rounds of Ammunition

    Social Security Administration says hollow point bullets necessary for staff's safety.....



    The US Social Security Administration wants Americans to know that they are concerned with the safety of their workers. That is why, they now say, they’ve ordered 174,000 rounds of lethal hollow-point bullets.

    Our special agents need to be armed and trained appropriately,” a blog post from the SSA office explains. “They not only investigate allegations of Social Security fraud, but they also are called to respond to threats against Social Security offices, employees and customers.

    Days after the SSA published a solicitation online for a lot of .357 Duty Carry Sig 125 grain bonded JHP hollow point bullets, the agency says there is nothing especially unusual about their request.

    “[O]ur office has criminal investigators, or special agents, who are responsible for investigating violations of the laws that govern SSA’s programs,” the agency explains in the post, published on Thursday. “Currently, about 295 special agents and supervisory special agents work in 66 offices across the United States.These investigators have full law enforcement authority, including executing search warrants and making arrests.”

    Responding to the large request of 174,00 rounds, an administrator on the SSA blog writes, “this is a routine procurement that we typically make every fiscal year.”

    “We have about 295 criminal investigators who must qualify with a firearm four times per year.If each investigator uses 150 rounds per qualification, then we would need 177,000 rounds per year.This number can vary based on the total number of agents, and any type of specialized training we might undertake. “.....snip~

    Social Security Administration says hollow point bullets necessary for staff's safety — RT

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    Re: DHS Purchases 21.6 Million More Rounds of Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I don't usually consider Infowars as my goto for reliable information, considering it a quasi-news source. That being said, there are sufficient reliable links in the article below to warrant a further investigation. The links do provide enough provocation to ask the question -- Why is the Dept of Homeland buying enougn bullets to sustain a 30 year war?

    DHS Purchases 21.6 Million More Rounds of Ammunition Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
    Assuming this is true, just for ****s and giggles, that's really not a lot of ammunition, and like every other armed branch of government, they use many different firearms which require many different calibers of ammunition. The most likely answer is that they're replenishing their stock from the last fiscal year, while making sure they stay supplied for at least the next fiscal year. 21.6 million rounds of ammunition won't sustain a two year war, let alone a thirty year war. For the US WWII lasted roughly 4 years, and according to Lt. Gen. Levin H. Campbell, Jr., Chief of Ordnance from 1942 to 1946, we expended 47 billion rounds of small arms ammunition. Only 21.6 million rounds for a 30 year war? Get real. My unit alone went through at least half a million rounds a year just for training.
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