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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

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    The reno office here in Nevada is pretty good. They were friendly and thorough (thank goodness) because it was a difficult time for her.
    That's good.
    It's like the DMV, I suppose, some good some bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Well, I think as far as whistleblower is concerned, I do believe you can call the SS office and report that person.

    If the truth is that fraud is rampant, then there definitely needs to be more auditors and support for hiring them.
    Too late to report them, they're over 60 and per the revue rules, he'd continue to qualify.
    I could have when I was a teen, but I didn't know better then.
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    I worked full time from 1964 to 2004 during which I never received benefits from medicaid, welfare, unemployment, food stamps, student loans or grants, etc.
    But as I am now 66, I get SS and medicare. And I also get a VA disability for Parkinson's, due to Agent Orange exposure. And a pension from the Navy. Adds up to about $6000 per month.
    If I had been diagnosed earlier, I would have gotten long term disability from my employer, but the doctors failed to diagnose until after I "retired"....meaning I was pushed out at age 58.
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I worked full time from 1964 to 2004 during which I never received benefits from medicaid, welfare, unemployment, food stamps, student loans or grants, etc.
    But as I am now 66, I get SS and medicare. And I also get a VA disability for Parkinson's, due to Agent Orange exposure. And a pension from the Navy. Adds up to about $6000 per month.
    Thank you, Uncle Sam....
    They used to make Agent Orange, down the road a ways.
    Local lore says they buried it in the town.
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    We were told we would be contacted every three years and were even shown the paperwork we would have to fill out. All I can go by is what the evaluators and the auditors have told us which is every 3 years. I'll dig through her paperwork tonight and see if I can find somewhere it says that.
    That depends on how your initial case and last review were judged; if your disability is deemed likely to be permanent then the review is simply a formality, you fill out a form and nothing else happens. Generally, if you (or your employer) don't report income changes no "actual" review is ever done, just paperwork generated to make SSA look busy.
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    They used to make Agent Orange, down the road a ways.
    Local lore says they buried it in the town.
    Not likely, when all they had to do to dispose of it is call it "weed control"....
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Not likely, when all they had to do to dispose of it is call it "weed control"....
    It's possible.
    I dunno how true local lore is.

    Just an interesting short story is all.
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    I find it amusing that people think we really have a huge growth in people actually disabled. This growth is largely long-term deadbeats maxing out TANF and jumping ship to the bigger check. I am sure if we eliminate long-term unemployment, all those long-term people who just can't find a job anywhere will suddenly become too depressed to work too

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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Well like I mentioned before, if that truly is the case that there is rampant fraud then there seems to be probable cause for the government to hire more auditors and have bi-partisan support for it.
    I don't see how Democrats could support that. If Republicans brought it up, it'd make too good a target to pass up. I don't even think Congress' approval is needed to hire more auditors. I'd venture to guess we don't even have any field auditors. We expect SS to catch fraud while sitting behind their desks.
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I find it amusing that people think we really have a huge growth in people actually disabled. This growth is largely long-term deadbeats maxing out TANF and jumping ship to the bigger check. I am sure if we eliminate long-term unemployment, all those long-term people who just can't find a job anywhere will suddenly become too depressed to work too
    I have worked with a few people who could retire early on disability, but refuse to....even if they don't need more retirement points in the company plan...
    I wonder how many of those we have compared to those who are not really disabled and are faking it..
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    I can think of a couple of explanations; one is that the population as a whole is aging, the other is that local governments encourage people on welfare who may qualify to get disability and/or social security. Also, being homeless for an extended time is enough to give people serious psychological problems (if they didn't already have them) which might get them on disability and/or social security eventually, so increases in housing shortages, unemployment and poverty are also likely explanations.

    I believe that there is a good bit of fraud and that many people could transition to work, at least part-time work, but the current system discourages doing so. There should be plenty of fraud investigations and incentives and programs to get the people who can work to do so.

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