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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Again, I can only go by my experience and talking with the evaluators for my wife and from other people I've met that have gone through the same thing. The evalutor said they look for things like "Can they be re-trained?" , "Do they have the ability to be re-trained?", "Can they function without assistance?", etc. In the case of MS, it affects all parts of the body and it's never the same thing with different people. My wife has many lesions on her brain that affect her memory and speech, as well as two lesions on her spine that affect her walking and sitting ability. They looked into all of this and even had her audited as well in the end.

    It really was a big evaluation and there were pages upon pages I had to help fill out for my wife. Also, when she was evaluated I wasn't allowed to be in there with her at the time.

    I won't say there aren't cases of abuse, but given how the evalutions go I just don't see a majority of people able to "fake it" just because "they can't find work".
    I'm not denying your experience, at all.
    I'm definitely not implying, at all, that your wife is undeserving of SSDI.
    Just to be very clear.

    I'm just relating my experience.
    I'm pretty sure, different people, at different locations will be evaluated differently.
    Some get the fine toothed comb, while others can be waved in.
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    So what is the solution again? oh yeah, put all those people out on the streets. Don't worry they are disabled so when they riot all we have to do is kick out their fake leg and then they flop around on the pavement like a fish. Don't worry, CP doesn't just want them to die, he wants to destroy your life also. You see, when these people have no more money to spend they will have to stop buying stuff. This will cause another downturn in our economy which will put more people out of work who CP also supports having them die in the gutter. Since those people will also not have money to spend then we will cut more demand and more jobs.

    Yes people CP actually wants to destroy america with his plan of eliminating almost all demand for products and killing off every one of your jobs. At least it is not just cripples he doesn't care about. Of course, some of us who understand economics know you cannot support supply and demand off the one percent, but don't let simple things get in the way of faux outrage.
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'm not denying your experience, at all.
    I'm definitely not implying, at all, that your wife is undeserving of SSDI.
    Just to be very clear.
    I didn't take it that way at all, but thank you for clarifying. I mentioned it only because of the evaluation she had to go through and what they looked at. It was very detailed and even audited at the end.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'm just relating my experience.
    I'm pretty sure, different people, at different locations will be evaluated differently.
    Some get the fine toothed comb, while others can be waved in.

    Well, and that may be the problem right there. If people aren't doing their job, those that are found to be frauding the system should be punished along with possibly the evalutors if it's found they didn't do their job correctly.

    But to accomplish this, would you agree the government would have to hire more auditors?

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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Again, I can only go by my experience and talking with the evaluators for my wife and from other people I've met that have gone through the same thing. The evalutor said they look for things like "Can they be re-trained?" , "Do they have the ability to be re-trained?", "Can they function without assistance?", etc. In the case of MS, it affects all parts of the body and it's never the same thing with different people. My wife has many lesions on her brain that affect her memory and speech, as well as two lesions on her spine that affect her walking and sitting ability. They looked into all of this and even had her audited as well in the end. She couldn't do the job she was at and with MS, she doesn't have the ability to work steady. Add that to how an employer would have to deal with my wife having to leave due to migraines, not able to sit or walk without being in pain, the medication she has to take, and it's just not feasible.

    It really was a big evaluation and there were pages upon pages I had to help fill out for my wife. Also, when she was evaluated I wasn't allowed to be in there with her at the time.

    I won't say there aren't cases of abuse, but given how the evalutions go I just don't see a majority of people able to "fake it" just because "they can't find work".
    Your wife absolutely deserves disability. And, if it were up to me, she'd get more than she's getting, frankly. In the Chicago area, not a day goes by without three or more commercials from law firms offering to help people get on disability.

    One only has to look at the exponential increase in those on disability to know it is rampant with fraud.
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I didn't take it that way at all, but thank you for clarifying. I mentioned it only because of the evaluation she had to go through and what they looked at. It was very detailed and even audited at the end.
    Just wanted to make sure you didn't think I was trying to insult your wife.
    I don't go there, but sometimes the written word can give the guise of implying such a thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Well, and that may be the problem right there. If people aren't doing their job, those that are found to be frauding the system should be punished along with possibly the evalutors if it's found they didn't do their job correctly.
    I think so.
    A lot of the SS office people seem to be meh about their job.
    At least at the office I visited.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    But to accomplish this, would you agree the government would have to hire more auditors?
    That would be fine with me.
    All I know right now, is that someone I know, is getting SSDI for bipolar disorder, however they have the ability to ride a motorcycle all day and do work like activities.
    Doesn't make much sense to me.

    On the flip side, I know 2 people, that could work, even though they were born disabled but can't because of their medical costs.
    We should fix that first, imo.
    People with disabilities should be able to retain Medicaid/Medicare benefits, if they want to work and their disability has not been cured.
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Yes, rage away as if you give a damn - when you don't at all.

    People who commit disability fraud steal from those who truly are disabled by watering down the available funds for those who truly need it. Do you care? Do you care that disability fraud is actually stealing those who truly are disabled? No, you don't give a damn, do you? Not a word commenting that there is no enforcement nor investigation to prevent such fraud and theft.

    Rather, you go into the ad nauseau mindless sheeple partisan raging on behalf of welfare fraudsters.

    There is a simple difference between my message and yours. Mine does care about theft and fraud of the public treasury and from those who truly need assistance. And in your message you don't give a damn about the truly disabled nor those that steal by fraud from the SS system. You just created your own strawman of putting the truly disabled out on the street - which he didn't post - and the go off on some MSNBC rant against the "one percent" - as if that has any relevancy to this topic whatsoever.

    Bottomline? You don't care about the disabled one iota. You just look for excuses to do pointless partisan ranting - and, yes, faux ranting.
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Every 3 years, someone on disability is supposed to be re-evaluated for it. Whether that happens or not, I don't know. I recently helped my wife get on disability due to her MS, and she has 8 years of medical history documenting it as well as having to go to a psycologist and 2 other independent doctors for approval. It's not as easy as people think to just "go on disability".
    I have tried, yet cannot find ant statistics on this review process from SSA.

    Generally, there is no need to worry about a medical continuing review if you have not experienced an improvement in your medical condition or have not returned to work at a level that Social Security considers to be substantial gainful activity.
    HOW DOES THE SOCIAL SECURITY DISABILITY REVIEW WORK?
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Your wife absolutely deserves disability. And, if it were up to me, she'd get more than she's getting, frankly. In the Chicago area, not a day goes by without three or more commercials from law firms offering to help people get on disability.

    One only has to look at the exponential increase in those on disability to know it is rampant with fraud.
    Well like I mentioned before, if that truly is the case that there is rampant fraud then there seems to be probable cause for the government to hire more auditors and have bi-partisan support for it.

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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I have tried, yet cannot find ant statistics on this review process from SSA.

    HOW DOES THE SOCIAL SECURITY DISABILITY REVIEW WORK?
    We were told we would be contacted every three years and were even shown the paperwork we would have to fill out. All I can go by is what the evaluators and the auditors have told us which is every 3 years. I'll dig through her paperwork tonight and see if I can find somewhere it says that.

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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Just wanted to make sure you didn't think I was trying to insult your wife.
    I don't go there, but sometimes the written word can give the guise of implying such a thing.
    Again, thank you for the clarification.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I think so.
    A lot of the SS office people seem to be meh about their job.
    At least at the office I visited.
    The reno office here in Nevada is pretty good. They were friendly and thorough (thank goodness) because it was a difficult time for her.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That would be fine with me.
    All I know right now, is that someone I know, is getting SSDI for bipolar disorder, however they have the ability to ride a motorcycle all day and do work like activities.
    Doesn't make much sense to me.

    On the flip side, I know 2 people, that could work, even though they were born disabled but can't because of their medical costs.
    We should fix that first, imo.
    People with disabilities should be able to retain Medicaid/Medicare benefits, if they want to work and their disability has not been cured.
    Well, I think as far as whistleblower is concerned, I do believe you can call the SS office and report that person.

    If the truth is that fraud is rampant, then there definitely needs to be more auditors and support for hiring them.

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