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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    If I remember right, the fraud "detectors" only look for it, during the process of applying.
    After approval, it's over.

    A lot of people have gotten wise to that.

    Every 3 years, someone on disability is supposed to be re-evaluated for it. Whether that happens or not, I don't know. I recently helped my wife get on disability due to her MS, and she has 8 years of medical history documenting it as well as having to go to a psycologist and 2 other independent doctors for approval. It's not as easy as people think to just "go on disability".

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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Every 3 years, someone on disability is supposed to be re-evaluated for it. Whether that happens or not, I don't know. I recently helped my wife get on disability due to her MS, and she has 8 years of medical history documenting it as well as having to go to a psycologist and 2 other independent doctors for approval. It's not as easy as people think to just "go on disability".
    If the re evaluations are anything like SSI, it's a gigantic joke.
    It's not always easy, but for some it is.
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    If the re evaluations are anything like SSI, it's a gigantic joke.
    It's not always easy, but for some it is.
    My mother got on disability with little effort at all. She didn't need years of medical records and only spent about 15 minutes face-to-face with a case worker.
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    My mother got on disability with little effort at all. She didn't need years of medical records and only spent about 15 minutes face-to-face with a case worker.
    Yes, but I if I remember correctly, your mother's diability was kinda like a "no-brainer" thing for them to decide on right? It wasn't like she just said to herself "I can't find a job, so I'm going on disability". That's what I'm getting at.

    For most, I won't say all, it is difficult for a person that can work to just "fake" a disability.

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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Romney was right, we are becoming a nation of takers.

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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    My mother got on disability with little effort at all. She didn't need years of medical records and only spent about 15 minutes face-to-face with a case worker.
    Some people walk into it, with nothing, others have hell.
    They're weird about it.
    It may be the specific case worker, not sure really.

    I've had the "luck" of being able to visit the SS office and sit in on evaluations.
    Now these were for SSI, not SSDI but they just collected income/asset/bill information.
    That was it.
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    If the re evaluations are anything like SSI, it's a gigantic joke.
    It's not always easy, but for some it is.
    Yes, but the point is for most, it is not just a "Well I can't find a job so I'm going on disability" decision. I'm sure there are some people that are frauding the system, but I doubt most on especially now.

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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    And those 13 are also supporting the people on Welfare, Social Security, Medicaid, Unemployment.... yeesh. No wonder we have trillion dollar deficits.
    There is no way that many people are ACTUALLY disabled in any realistic way...
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes, but the point is for most, it is not just a "Well I can't find a job so I'm going on disability" decision. I'm sure there are some people that are frauding the system, but I doubt most on especially now.
    I'd say, I don't know.
    I mean, I'm sure most have legitimate medical problems.

    Are they bad enough, that they can't work anywhere, doing anything?
    That's were I'd question it.

    Of the two people I knew who got on SSDI.
    They both had to hide their motorcycles during the initial eval.
    I was a teenager at that time though.
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    Re: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Are they bad enough, that they can't work anywhere, doing anything?
    That's were I'd question it.

    Of the two people I knew who got on SSDI.
    They both had to hide their motorcycles during the initial eval.
    I was a teenager at that time though.
    Again, I can only go by my experience and talking with the evaluators for my wife and from other people I've met that have gone through the same thing. The evalutor said they look for things like "Can they be re-trained?" , "Do they have the ability to be re-trained?", "Can they function without assistance?", etc. In the case of MS, it affects all parts of the body and it's never the same thing with different people. My wife has many lesions on her brain that affect her memory and speech, as well as two lesions on her spine that affect her walking and sitting ability. They looked into all of this and even had her audited as well in the end. She couldn't do the job she was at and with MS, she doesn't have the ability to work steady. Add that to how an employer would have to deal with my wife having to leave due to migraines, not able to sit or walk without being in pain, the medication she has to take, and it's just not feasible.

    It really was a big evaluation and there were pages upon pages I had to help fill out for my wife. Also, when she was evaluated I wasn't allowed to be in there with her at the time.

    I won't say there aren't cases of abuse, but given how the evalutions go I just don't see a majority of people able to "fake it" just because "they can't find work".

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