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Wounded Warrior Refuses Donation From Church

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The Wounded Warrior Project, citing a conflict with the fundraisers policies, refused what was potentially $50,000 in donations from the Liberty Baptist Church and Academy in Fort Pierce, Fla.
"We must decline the opportunity to be the beneficiary of your event due to our fundraising event criteria, which doesn’t allow community events to be religious in nature,” read an email from the WWP community events team. “Please note your registration fee will be refunded within the next 7-10 business days.”

This is friggin ridiculous. If I were laid up in a hospital and receiving treatment for losing both legs, for instance, I wouldn't care if the money came from a religious event. I would just be happy I'm receiving the treatment. Hopefully this church can find another charity that caters to a similar cause. Maybe The Fisher House or something like that. This is a sad display of political correctness IMO.

Church Says Wounded Warrior Project Refused Their Money | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes
 
Pretty stupid. Money is money.
 
Pretty stupid. Money is money.
Apparently they think money given from religious groups that was raised during religious events (how else do religious groups get money?) will be coated with some sort of conversion dust that will make everyone who touches it a Christian/Muslim/Mormon/Catholic/Buddhist/etc.
 
Maybe this is in their Constitution and they stick to their Constitution as a matter of principle.

Maybe there's something to be learned from this...
 
No doubt, the Fox news story makes the Wounded Warrior decision look bad. However, I think I'll withhold judgment until more details become available.
 
In other words you'll wait for the MSNBC version; we know.

So long as the money came with no strings they are stupid. If the church wanted to attach some strings I can see why but this is as lame as the Veterans Administration not allowing prayers at grave side services for soldiers at their cemetaries - I think someone put an end to that crap.


No doubt, the Fox news story makes the Wounded Warrior decision look bad. However, I think I'll withhold judgment until more details become available.
 
In other words you'll wait for the MSNBC version; we know.

So long as the money came with no strings they are stupid. If the church wanted to attach some strings I can see why but this is as lame as the Veterans Administration not allowing prayers at grave side services for soldiers at their cemetaries - I think someone put an end to that crap.


Like I said, I'll wait for all the facts to come in.

Would you accept money that was in violation of your charter?

Would you accept money from Westboro Baptist church?
 
In other words you'll wait for the MSNBC version; we know.

So long as the money came with no strings they are stupid. If the church wanted to attach some strings I can see why but this is as lame as the Veterans Administration not allowing prayers at grave side services for soldiers at their cemetaries - I think someone put an end to that crap.


Another one of those "The christians are being persecuted" tales - that ain't true.

The VA simply said that if the family of the deceased didn't want prayers, then no 'church group' was to force their way into that specific funeral.
 
Well many facts are in,
I don't have a charter,
And yeah I'd take westburos money, better I have it then those bastards.


Like I said, I'll wait for all the facts to come in.

Would you accept money that was in violation of your charter?

Would you accept money from Westboro Baptist church?
 
Well many facts are in,
I don't have a charter,
And yeah I'd take westburos money, better I have it then those bastards.


Fox News could not have assessed it better! Thanks for sharing!

I'll wait for the facts to come in.
 
Fox News could not have assessed it better! Thanks for sharing!

I'll wait for the facts to come in.

And where, pray tell, will you receive those facts do you think? Did you even look at the article? It has picture of the actual letter the WWP sent them.
 
And where, pray tell, will you receive those facts do you think? Did you even look at the article? It has picture of the actual letter the WWP sent them.

Yes, I read the entire article and no where does it mention if this would be in violation of their charter. Do you have knowledge of whether it is or not?
 
Like I said, I'll wait for all the facts to come in.

Would you accept money that was in violation of your charter?

Would you accept money from Westboro Baptist church?

Do you have a copy of their charter handy?
 
Pretty stupid. Money is money.

Yeah right - and then the religious people freak the **** out whenever the government supports certain things by proxy with their tax dollars.

Mmmhmm - no - it's not a one-way street.
 
Yeah right - and then the religious people freak the **** out whenever the government supports certain things by proxy with their tax dollars.

Mmmhmm - no - it's not a one-way street.

You DO realize that there is quite a large difference between taking money from people and giving it to causes they do not agree with, and accepting a donation willfully given by a group of people who knew exactly where it was going, who you just happen to dislike, right?
 
Yeah right - and then the religious people freak the **** out whenever the government supports certain things by proxy with their tax dollars.

Mmmhmm - no - it's not a one-way street.

A private foundation should be held to a different standard than state and federal govts
 
While I get that a private charity has the right to accept or not accept money from whoever they want, I've never quite understood why a charity would turn down money unless it was earned illegally or something.

Something similar to this happened a few years ago when Gary Gygax died. A bunch of people at a gaming convention donated some money to some charity in his name and the charity wouldn't accept it.
 
While I get that a private charity has the right to accept or not accept money from whoever they want, I've never quite understood why a charity would turn down money unless it was earned illegally or something.

Something similar to this happened a few years ago when Gary Gygax died. A bunch of people at a gaming convention donated some money to some charity in his name and the charity wouldn't accept it.


I can understand it for some cases - if WBC offers me a donation for some charity of mine, I would be seriously concerned about being a charity perceived as being associated with WBC - that sort of association can really, really hurt a charity.

This is an especially odd case though, my church has had a collection box in the lobby specifically for the Wounded Warrior project for as long as I can remember, we've raised a couple thousand dollars for them just from pocket change over the last few years, and they never seemed to mind those donations...
 
Yes, I read the entire article and no where does it mention if this would be in violation of their charter. Do you have knowledge of whether it is or not?
That's the point of this entire thread. It is in violation of their charter and it shouldn't be. Helping wounded vets is the point of their charity and they refused what could have been $50,000 for a useless policy.
 
Yeah right - and then the religious people freak the **** out whenever the government supports certain things by proxy with their tax dollars.

Mmmhmm - no - it's not a one-way street.
Big difference. Taxes are taken, this is a charity to help wounded vets. Nice attempt at a strawman though.
 
That's the point of this entire thread. It is in violation of their charter and it shouldn't be. Helping wounded vets is the point of their charity and they refused what could have been $50,000 for a useless policy.


If that is in their charter the administrators have no legal recourse but to follow it. I would have a problem with it if it were just an arbitrary decision by the administrators.

I can understand the founding Veterans reasons for wanting the charity to be non-partisan. From what I can tell from my internet searches, this only appears to be an issue with the far right, many of whom are associated with fundamentalist churches like Liberty Baptist Academy.
 
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