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    Re: Constrictive Hacking!

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    The government has continued to erode our rights, especially regarding our right to trial. I'm glad someone has the balls to stand up to them, because most of us don't.



    When nearly every politician is this way, that's not really an option. Everybody makes big campaign promises and then when they're elected just does whatever they want. Those who actually are trying to do the right thing are stonewalled.

    But hey, next time you're at the ballot box, be sure to pat yourself on the back for how much you're fighting government corruption by picking the right candidates.
    Your defeatist attitude...coupled with a general disinterest in our government on the part of our citizenry...and is the main cause of our problems.
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    Re: Constrictive Hacking!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Your defeatist attitude...coupled with a general disinterest in our government on the part of our citizenry...and is the main cause of our problems.
    I have quite an interest in our government, but my vote for people who actually might change something, the libertarian party, is always wasted because we have a ridiculous two party system where both sides are out to **** us as hard as they can.

    When's the last time you've cleaned up government corruption with your once-ever-4-years vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Sorry to disagree, but of the TWO treasonous things the hackers or the government the government is most dangerous and should be the ones delt with harshly. I am sorry but if my government is doing unlawful or heinous things I need to know about it so I can organize to put a stop to it. The unfortunate inocents that may be revieled in the documents where screwed by the government in their actions. I also disagree with you on the right to take classified documents public. If the public interest is best served by making them public then they need to be public regardless of how they got that way especially if those documents bring to light actions by the government doing things they are not authorized to do. Secrecy is how this government gets around its masters.
    Exactly, for example, if our government is torturing children in dark rooms, shouldn't we know about it? Exposing attrocities or gross constitutional violations is not treason.
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    Re: Anonymous Threatens Massive WikiLeaks-Style Exposure, Announced On Hacked Gov Sit

    Quote Originally Posted by Pagan View Post
    Now this is what I call Hacking in a positive way!!!
    How is this positive? They're basically blackmailing your government saying "Pass all the laws we want you to or we'll release embarrassing information". It's practically terrorism. Even if you agree with their (stated) aims, supporting their methods is grossly immoral.

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    Re: Constrictive Hacking!

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    How is this positive? They're basically blackmailing your government saying "Pass all the laws we want you to or we'll release embarrassing information". It's practically terrorism. Even if you agree with their (stated) aims, supporting their methods is grossly immoral.
    And maybe the government shouldn't be doing things that it would be embarrassed to admit in the first place.
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    Re: Constrictive Hacking!

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    It's a worldwide organization. And did you really just suggest that the US government doesn't make people disappear who they label as terrorists?
    Mostly they turn them into tiny bits with drone launched missiles.

    Anonymous seems to have a cavalier attitude about the "collateral damage" they might do. This means that a lot of innocent people will be hurt, and I can't go along with that.

    Anonymous is naive to think that the NSA doesn't already know who and where they are. The second it becomes a national security issue, and therefore subject to them, it will be the end of Anonymous.

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    Re: Constrictive Hacking!

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Mostly they turn them into tiny bits with drone launched missiles.

    Anonymous seems to have a cavalier attitude about the "collateral damage" they might do. This means that a lot of innocent people will be hurt, and I can't go along with that.

    Anonymous is naive to think that the NSA doesn't already know who and where they are. The second it becomes a national security issue, and therefore subject to them, it will be the end of Anonymous.
    Where do you think the NSA gets their people?
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    Re: Constrictive Hacking!

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Mostly they turn them into tiny bits with drone launched missiles.

    Anonymous seems to have a cavalier attitude about the "collateral damage" they might do. This means that a lot of innocent people will be hurt, and I can't go along with that.

    Anonymous is naive to think that the NSA doesn't already know who and where they are. The second it becomes a national security issue, and therefore subject to them, it will be the end of Anonymous.
    If the government knew, they wouldn't still be on the net. I wouldn't underestimate their intelligence. Sure they'll catch some but not all.

    I don't care what collateral damage there is to exposing constitutional violations, war crimes, or any other atrocities. The only people who are responsible for those things are the ones who committed it, not exposed it.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Constrictive Hacking!

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    That's how the majority of their 'Ops' are announced and most of the time they follow through.
    There haven't shut down Facebook yet. That was the one I was kind of secretly rooting for them on.

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    Re: Constrictive Hacking!

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And maybe the government shouldn't be doing things that it would be embarrassed to admit in the first place.
    Everyone and every organisation that ever existed has something that could be made embarrassing if made public. Not that it matters - two wrongs don't make a right.

    I bet if the government were being blackmailing in to passing legislation you disagreed with, you'd be agreeing with me. You're happy to support criminal scum if they're doing something you agree with (today).

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    Re: Constrictive Hacking!

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Everyone and every organisation that ever existed has something that could be made embarrassing if made public. Not that it matters - two wrongs don't make a right.

    I bet if the government were being blackmailing in to passing legislation you disagreed with, you'd be agreeing with me. You're happy to support criminal scum if they're doing something you agree with (today).
    One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. I just so happen to agree that the attacks on our constitutional right to trial and other such crimes by our government need to stop, which is why I wholeheartedly believe what they are doing is morally just.
    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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