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    Re: Constrictive Hacking!

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    The problem is we do not have the ability to chose candidates that will follow the Constitution since the politicians determine the eligibility of what candidates are allowed. And Anonymous' solution is better than the one we will soon be left with which is insurrection.
    Oh, you are most certainly correct that we don't have that ability...as long as we continue to be lazy, apathetic and just plain not concerned about who is being selected for office. That is the attitude of most of the American populace. Perhaps THAT is what needs to be changed...perhaps you should support ending that apathy instead of supporting a bunch of hidden, cowardly, terroristic rats.
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    Re: Constrictive Hacking!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Didn't say that he was a part of the Press did I? But he was a wistleblower to the press. And yes he is in jail. How many other whistleblowers are in jail?
    Bradley Manning wasn't a whistleblower. A whistleblower is someone who comes across evidence of specific wrong-doing and raises it through the appropriate channels (which, as a last resort, could include going public).

    Manning gathered vast swathes of data that he couldn't possibly know the contents of and passed it all on to unknown third parties with no real idea of what they would do with it. Some of that data did involve evidence of wrong-doing but Manning didn't blow the whistle on that.

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    Re: Constrictive Hacking!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Didn't say that he was a part of the Press did I? But he was a wistleblower to the press. And yes he is in jail. How many other whistleblowers are in jail?



    What makes up "the press"?



    Exposing the truth makes one a terrorist and a criminal? Tell me, who exactly is terrorized by Anonymous?
    HonestJoe's remark about Manning hit the nail on the head. I'll just point out that Manning NEVER went to the press with the information he stole.

    The press? The media.

    It's not the exposing of the truth that makes Anonymous terrorists and criminals. It's the manner in which they do it. As to who has been terrorized by them...see post #199.
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    Re: Anonymous Threatens Massive WikiLeaks-Style Exposure

    Quote Originally Posted by Pagan View Post
    So do you believe that government's dirty secrets shouldn't ever be exposed? That everything the government does is totally off limits?
    lol? You are conflating secrets with dirty secrets. Why?

    If you had checked on the background of Anonymous there is no real "head" , they are a loosely based group of activists spanning the globe.
    I know, that's part of the problem.

    I'm all for exposing all governments dirt, especially China. You know their gulags (the Lao Gai), what they're doing to Tibet, etc., etc. They're openly hostile against the U.S. but we continue to kiss their ass's even though they're hell bent on burying the U.S.
    You might be all for it, but anonymous isn't. Why do you think that is?
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    Re: Constrictive Hacking!

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Your position is idiotic because you're claiming that anonymous is attacking the US government vs the Chinese government because you think that in America you have the FREEDOM to hack the government.
    Uhhh...no, I didn't say that. I'm not sure you're even taken the time to try to figure out what my position is- you certainly never asked for. You just lashed out with personal insults because I laughed anonymous. That's interesting.

    Yes, they sat down one day and started listing countries. When they came to China they said "No, they could fly to our countries and make us disappear", and when talking about America "Yes! That's perfect! In America you have the freedom to hack the government!"

    You popping in every few pages with a childish assertion like this isn't really contributing to the debate.
    You don't seem to read very well, but you have very strong opinions, so that's cute.
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    Re: Constrictive Hacking!

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Bradley Manning wasn't a whistleblower. A whistleblower is someone who comes across evidence of specific wrong-doing and raises it through the appropriate channels (which, as a last resort, could include going public).

    Manning gathered vast swathes of data that he couldn't possibly know the contents of and passed it all on to unknown third parties with no real idea of what they would do with it. Some of that data did involve evidence of wrong-doing but Manning didn't blow the whistle on that.
    Exposing government crimes, in particular the gunship video and audio, is not whistleblowing?

    My, what a strange and corrupt world you live in.

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    Re: Constrictive Hacking!

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    Well you would know a lot about revolution wouldn't you, being a democrat.Tell me, how does it feel to be a sell out?

    Let me explain: Your party has presided over the rapid succession of legislation which has made a mockery out of the first amendment and is currently waging a war against whistleblowers and journalists. If it were Bush who had did this, you would be screaming your head off but because it's Obama you will passively support him, like good democrat sheep.

    Maybe you just don't realize how many risks people are taking who are, in fact,completely aware of the risks they are taking but do it for the sake of democracy?
    Isn't sterotyping fun? I mean for everyone else, watching you look completely ignorant about any facts concerning the person you're talking about.

    Redress has been pretty universally critical of these hacker types since they've been on the forum, and has been relatively consistent in their views regardless of whose in power of whether or not it's in line with Obama's agenda or not.

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    Re: Constrictive Hacking!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Tell me, what is the difference between an "whistleblower/informant" and hacking? Both come by their knowledge and distribute it via "unlawful" ways. Don't believe me? Take a look at Manning....
    If you're going to speak of things being "unlawful" it would help if you actually knew about the laws. ACTUAL whistleblowing is not unlawful, nor gaining the information through an "unlawful" way. Manning was not a "whistleblowewr", he was someone that simply indiscriminately released a **** ton of information with little knowledge of exactly what was being released, what if any part of it was actually illegal activity, and completly out of step with what "whistleblowing" is.

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    Re: Constrictive Hacking!

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Exposing government crimes, in particular the gunship video and audio, is not whistleblowing?

    My, what a strange and corrupt world you live in.
    My, what a strange world you live in where you get to ignore words people write in an effort to bitch about them.

    Did you notice the word he used in terms of "SPECIFIC" wrong doing.

    Had Manning taken the Gunship video and audio, reported it in appropriate fashion in accordance with Whistleblower laws, there'd be no issue. He'd be a whistleblower. He'd have been exposing a legitimate specific wrong-doing.

    That's not what he did. Manning released a crap ton of material, much of which was in no way, shape, or form things that would be classified as legitimate for Whistleblowing purposes, and happened to have some things within the large stash tha the released that were actually problematic.

    That's the difference of saying the police can arrest a specific person who committed a crime...and then saying it's the same thing if the police arrest 50 people and 2 of those people happen to have committed a crime, so it's okay.

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    Re: Constrictive Hacking!

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Exposing government crimes, in particular the gunship video and audio, is not whistleblowing?
    lol there was nothing criminal about that. That's just people who don't know anything about war being disturbed about it.
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