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    Re: Limbaugh: Itís Up To Me And Fox News To Stop Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayno View Post
    Works for me............

    I'm only responding to what YOU'VE said...........

    Now, if you want to go BACK to the discussion, it's up to you......

    Let's start here.

    Like I said, I actually ADMIRE real Liberals, because as a Conservative, I realize that a "Ship of State" with the rudder stuck left OR right is a ship heading to disaster.........

    But REAL Liberals would have stood up, and said something when a guy DARED to ask the President a question, and promptly had his Constitutional rights peed on, regardless of Party.

    REAL Liberals would have stood up, and said "Hell no" when the President decided to start executing American citizens, WITHOUT ANY FORM OF JUDICIAL REVIEW, based only on his OPINION alone...

    REAL Liberals would have stood again, and said NO to putting people into jail without charges indefitely, AGAIN based purely on the President's words alone.......

    And Jewish Americans must REALLY be blind after what they've gone through, since many attribute all these terrible things to Republicans, when all ANY President needs now do is label them, or any OTHER group, "terrorists," and they can be imprisoned for life, and executed at will, LEGALLY today, based on the President's assessment alone.....

    In short, REAL Liberals aren't so afraid of being called racists that they cow-tow to fascist whims.............
    I guess "wow, enough with the clever repartee" really hit a nerve.

    Thanks for packing more discredited rightwing memes in one post than has ever been packed before. A record!

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    Re: Limbaugh: Itís Up To Me And Fox News To Stop Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I;m curious. Just what is a real liberal?

    Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis)[1] is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality.[2] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally they support ideas such as free and fair elections, civil rights, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free trade, and private property.[3][4][5][6][7]

    Liberalism first became a distinct political movement during the Age of Enlightenment, when it became popular among philosophers and economists in the Western world. Liberalism rejected the notions, common at the time, of hereditary privilege, state religion, absolute monarchy, and the Divine Right of Kings. The early liberal thinker John Locke is often credited with founding liberalism as a distinct philosophical tradition. Locke argued that each man has a natural right to life, liberty and property[8] and according to the social contract, governments must not violate these rights. Liberals opposed traditional conservatism and sought to replace absolutism in government with democracy and/or republicanism and the rule of law.


    So please explain to me how what's printed in red can be reconciled with Obama imprisoning and killing people based on his word alone, without judicial review.....?

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    Re: Limbaugh: Itís Up To Me And Fox News To Stop Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    I guess "wow, enough with the clever repartee" really hit a nerve.

    Thanks for packing more discredited rightwing memes in one post than has ever been packed before. A record!


    So then maybe YOU can answer the question I posed in #172 then, since you obviously think that John Locke was, how did you put that, spewing "discredited rightwing memes?"

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    Re: Limbaugh: Itís Up To Me And Fox News To Stop Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Limbaugh: It's Up To Me And Fox News To Stop Amnesty | TPM LiveWire

    I'm not sure what's funnier, Rush's bloated opinion as to his own importance, or his reliance on a network that professes to be "fair and balanced" on all issues..

    Thanks for the giggles Rush.
    the conservative roots killed it in Bush's second term. Now we are playing with a weaker hand. We'll see.

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    Re: Limbaugh: Itís Up To Me And Fox News To Stop Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayno View Post
    .... REAL Liberals would have stood up, and said something when a guy DARED to ask the President a question, and promptly had his Constitutional rights peed on, regardless of Party.

    REAL Liberals would have stood up, and said "Hell no" when the President decided to start executing American citizens, WITHOUT ANY FORM OF JUDICIAL REVIEW, based only on his OPINION alone...

    REAL Liberals would have stood again, and said NO to putting people into jail without charges indefitely, AGAIN based purely on the President's words alone.......

    And Jewish Americans must REALLY be blind after what they've gone through, since many attribute all these terrible things to Republicans, when all ANY President needs now do is label them, or any OTHER group, "terrorists," and they can be imprisoned for life, and executed at will, LEGALLY today, based on the President's assessment alone.....

    In short, REAL Liberals aren't so afraid of being called racists that they cow-tow to fascist whims.............
    Real liberals, including me, have been speaking up on all these issues, even during the Obama administration, and filing lawsuits etc. through the AClU and other organizations. Part of the problem is that there are only a handful of real liberals holding office in the Congress or Senate.

    The wishy washy moderate, almost-liberals (most Democrats holding federal office) have been quiet for two reasons:
    1. They fear losing their power by being perceived as too radical.

    2. Stategically they think it is unwise to criticize an administration that is far better than the Republican alternative because it will only help those who will be even worse on these issues. That is certainly not an unreasonable choice, especially during election years since, for example, there was zero evidence that Romney would be better on any of the issues you mentioned and he would probably be worse.

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    Re: Limbaugh: Itís Up To Me And Fox News To Stop Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Real liberals, including me, have been speaking up on all these issues, even during the Obama administration, and filing lawsuits etc. through the AClU and other organizations. Part of the problem is that there are only a handful of real liberals holding office in the Congress or Senate.

    The wishy washy moderate, almost-liberals (most Democrats holding federal office) have been quiet for two reasons:
    1. They fear losing their power by being perceived as too radical.

    2. Stategically they think it is unwise to criticize an administration that is far better than the Republican alternative because it will only help those who will be even worse on these issues. That is certainly not an unreasonable choice, especially during election years since, for example, there was zero evidence that Romney would be better on any of the issues you mentioned and he would probably be worse.
    Disingenuous at best.

    You folks railed about Bush and the Constitution when it came to the Patriot Act.

    Obama puts the Patriot Act on steroids, and all he or any President need do is call either one of us a terrorist, and they can put us in jail with no charges for as long as they want, and execute us at their leisure, on the President's word alone.

    Doesn't GET more fascist than that, does it?

    The Liberal response?

    Deafening silence.............

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    Re: Limbaugh: Itís Up To Me And Fox News To Stop Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayno View Post
    Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis)[1] is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality.[2] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally they support ideas such as free and fair elections, civil rights, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free trade, and private property.[3][4][5][6][7]

    Liberalism first became a distinct political movement during the Age of Enlightenment, when it became popular among philosophers and economists in the Western world. Liberalism rejected the notions, common at the time, of hereditary privilege, state religion, absolute monarchy, and the Divine Right of Kings. The early liberal thinker John Locke is often credited with founding liberalism as a distinct philosophical tradition. Locke argued that each man has a natural right to life, liberty and property[8] and according to the social contract, governments must not violate these rights. Liberals opposed traditional conservatism and sought to replace absolutism in government with democracy and/or republicanism and the rule of law.


    So please explain to me how what's printed in red can be reconciled with Obama imprisoning and killing people based on his word alone, without judicial review.....?
    The left controls the language so of course they will call themselves 'liberal' even when they are obviously not. In that vein they also distorted history to say that the Republicans were the racist when it was always the Democrats.

    It's all very Orwellian.

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    Re: Limbaugh: Itís Up To Me And Fox News To Stop Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    there was zero evidence that Romney would be better on any of the issues you mentioned and he would probably be worse.
    Do you still believe that? Seriously?

    Maybe in a year or two you'll realize what happened and how the American people blew it.

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    Re: Limbaugh: Itís Up To Me And Fox News To Stop Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Context sure helps. I wish it was more popular.

    I consider Limbaugh to be a huge bag of wind but the bolded portion is correct. Add to that the Republicans slow dawning of the necessity of agreeing if they want to remain politically rlevant. So, it's a done deal and all that is being worked on are the details and how to funnel some profits to the connected ones overseeing this.

    For English press 2.
    This is how wars are fought now. Not by traditional means of declarations, men versus men, superior numbers or weapons, but greater numbers of people simply entering a country, legally or illegally, and effecting electoral system so much that all political parties must agree, on some levels, to their demands.

    The same thing is happening in Europe with Muslims. They to must cater to the Muslims vote just like American politicians must cater to the Hispanic vote.

    It makes the use of superior weapons obsolete and also sucks dry the financial structure of the host country. The Latinos who were celebrating with their own Mexican flag on Cinco de Mayo were just telling it like it is, just as American students were barred from wearing the US flag on that same day. Their confidence is growing while the American people continue to questions themselves.

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    Re: Limbaugh: Itís Up To Me And Fox News To Stop Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Another liberal served.
    Another Conservative led to slaughter.

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