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    Re: Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists to Graduate

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    Re: Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists to Graduate

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Whether or not it was religious, I would refuse to say it because I am graduating from high school. I am not taking a public oath for office.
    Don't disagree. Oaths in general aren't a real good fit in the culture these days....certainly not in the public sector.


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    Re: Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists to Graduate

    I think it would be rather easy to just stand there with all the other people and skip the God part if it really offends you so much. The hypocrisy here is that where should we draw the line? I wonder how many atheists on here, say "Oh My God," each day. Furthermore, should they stop using cash and coins? It has In God We Trust on it. Should they never enter a government building or any building with God in it's name or religious symbols on it? Should we make minority laws to please maybe the two atheists that are in the school? When I say atheists I mean ones that would actually stand up and say, I don't believe in this, I'm not saying it. Not, Oh I don't believe in God but...

    It's most likely that 99% of the school believes in a God. I am not a christian, but I do believe in God. So I would not be offended by having to say this. Why are atheists always trying to push their no-god religion onto others? Sometimes they are just as worse as the fundamentalists. Oh wait, they ARE fundamentalists!!!!

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    Re: Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists to Graduate

    now see, THIS is why we should limit the size of gun magazines, so republicans can minimize how often they shoot themselves in their own feet...
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    Re: Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists to Graduate

    A group of Republicans does not constitute a law made. Every day, our politicians propose the wackiest laws you can imagine, get publicity (sometimes) and then vanish without any actual change.

    How many bills have been proposed by Republicans AND Democrats that are utterly absurd? Thousands.

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    Re: Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists to Graduate

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    I think it would be rather easy to just stand there with all the other people and skip the God part if it really offends you so much. The hypocrisy here is that where should we draw the line? I wonder how many atheists on here, say "Oh My God," each day. Furthermore, should they stop using cash and coins? It has In God We Trust on it. Should they never enter a government building or any building with God in it's name or religious symbols on it? Should we make minority laws to please maybe the two atheists that are in the school? When I say atheists I mean ones that would actually stand up and say, I don't believe in this, I'm not saying it. Not, Oh I don't believe in God but...
    The atheists aren't asking for minority laws to appease them, they are asking for Arizona not to make laws that infringe on their rights.

    It's most likely that 99% of the school believes in a God. I am not a christian, but I do believe in God. So I would not be offended by having to say this. Why are atheists always trying to push their no-god religion onto others? Sometimes they are just as worse as the fundamentalists. Oh wait, they ARE fundamentalists!!!![/QUOTE]

    I don't think they are, it looks if anything its the other way around here.

    And I really just hate the politics of this whole thing. In my opinion, this isn't something important. An oath like this would do pretty much nothing to instill patriotism in the vast majority of high school students. All it is, is another example of making Republicans look bad on these issues, and hurting their own chances of pushing their fiscal agenda.
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    Re: Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists to Graduate

    How is the proposed Arizona law not blatanly a violation of the First Amendment?

    The government shall not endorse any religion. "God" is not Elohim, Allah, or (insert name of deity here). "God" is Judeochristian.

    School is for education. If they want their children swearing allegiance to God then they can put them in a religious school, not a public one. **** off Republicans.

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    Re: Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists to Graduate

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post

    1. They are asking for Arizona not to make laws that infringe on their rights.

    2. And I really just hate the politics of this whole thing. In my opinion, this isn't something important. An oath like this would do pretty much nothing to instill patriotism in the vast majority of high school students. All it is, is another example of making Republicans look bad on these issues, and hurting their own chances of pushing their fiscal agenda.
    1. Then they should move the England where the majority of the population is Atheist and their laws and money don't have God written all over them!

    2. It's kinda silly on their part too, I'm just pointing out that the atheists feel like a minority because, duh God is everywhere in this country. I'm not being some Bible Thumper here. It's quite literal. Everywhere you look you'll see something that offends you if you are an atheist activist. BTW, Awesome Signature!

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    Re: Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists to Graduate

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    The government shall not endorse any religion. "God" is not Elohim, Allah, or (insert name of deity here). "God" is Judeochristian.
    Um, the Constitution has the word God in it. Not Elohim, or Allah. Are you suggesting we should endorse other deities instead of the universal denomination, God? God can mean any God you are talking about. That's why people say, "If you believe in God or...a supreme being." We all know what that statement is referring to!

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    Re: Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists to Graduate

    Don't these retards ever get tired of losing in court? This is a complete non-starter. I just wish we could require that any politician that pushes something like this, something that has already been soundly established as unworkable in the courts, would be required to pay back the taxpayers out of their own pockets. You'd get less of this religious stupidity going around.
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