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    Re: Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists to Graduate

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Your parenthetical is not appreciated-- as I noted, I am not atheist but pagan, an Ásatrúar, and I am devoutly religious. And yes, my faith absolutely does prohibit me from saying "So help me God" or swearing any other oath on the Judeochristian deity along with any other non-Germanic deity.
    So when you do take an oath, if you ever have taken one, who do you call on to swear that you will adhere to that oath?

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    Re: Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists to Graduate

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So when you do take an oath, if you ever have taken one, who do you call on to swear that you will adhere to that oath?
    Myself. When I swear an oath, I am staking my honor on my given word. For a serious enough oath, which I would never swear to a government, I would swear by the blood of my ancestors; if I broke such an oath, my life would be forfeit to the one I swore to.

    I wouldn't dare swear by anything that did not belong to me.

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    Re: Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists to Graduate

    If I swore an oath it'd be on my nuts, so that if I broke my oath, they'd get to cut my balls off.

    Much more effective than swearing an oath to God, IMO.
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    Re: Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists to Graduate

    I think differently, if there is no god then essentially you are reciting gibberish when you say 'so help me god',etc. Furthermore you could just walk in with a shirt with 'I am god' on it, or a picture of Thor/insert pagan god here. Then there will be various legal challenges over the years, really a waste of money passing the bill.

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    Re: Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists to Graduate

    There is NOTHING conservative about the GOP today, they're nothing more than another big Government Party that is set to control every aspect of your life.

    Ronnie and Barry are both turning over in their graves at what the GOP has become these days.

    Let's see what Mr. Conservative himself said and his warning -

    "If they succeed in establishing religion as a basic Republican Party tenet, they could do us in."

    "By maintaining the separation of church and state,the United States has avoided the intolerance which has so divided the rest of the world with religious wars . . . Can any of us refute the wisdom of Madison and the other framers? Can anyone look at the carnage in Iran, the bloodshed in Northem Ireland, or the bombs bursting in Lebanon and yet question the dangers of injecting religious issues into the affairs of state?"

    -- Barry Goldwater
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    Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one.
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    Re: Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists to Graduate

    The problem is, people act like "conservative" and "neo-conservative" are the same thing. They're not. In fact, they're largely polar opposites. There is nothing conservative in the Republican party, it's a wholly neo-con party, which looks a whole lot more liberal than anything actual conservatives would do.

    When do we get an actual conservative party back in the U.S.?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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