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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    To be fair, the invasion and occupation of Iraq involved a much greater loss of life, and that happened since 9/11

    But "the worst tragedy since the Iraq War, which I supported" doesn't have quite the same ring to it.
    The Bush administration did everything to protect Americans in Iraq, the Obama/Hillary duo did nothing to protect the lives of the Ambassador and three other Americans in Benghazi. They left them them alone to die. That was never the case in Iraq. Americans always helped each other.

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    clintoon, dumbya, and obamba are all idiots, but dumbya was clearly the worst of the bunch, since his policies caused the most debt.
    That's not true. You've been misinformed.

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    With voter ID, they could mean anything. Voter ID = Magazine size restrictions. Won't stop anything.
    Why won't they stop anything? If the ID is secure, as it should be, it would certainly make fraud more difficult.

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why won't they stop anything? If the ID is secure, as it should be, it would certainly make fraud more difficult.
    Like most gun control, it only restricts people who obey the law. If you are really intent on electoral fraud, you will get fake ID or find other ways around the system and other ways to commit fraud. For example, this one:

    Voter Fraud Confirmed; State Takes Over East Longmeadow Election - Western Massachusetts Breaking News and First Warning Weather with WGGB.com ABC 40

    Or the countless times when a candidate or his party get absentee ballots to deliver to the nursing home. Where they are so helpful in filling out the ballots "correctly." The only people who will be affected will be law abiding voters.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayno View Post
    Barack Obama's base consists of people living in every ghetto, project, ward and barrio in America.......

    You know, the more educated and enlightened folks in their party............
    Yes, I've seen the OWS crowd also.

    But this, along with high unemployment, unsustainable social programs, and record levels of debt, seems to be the direction the American electorate wants to take. An uneducated population is one of the great threats to democracy, and the Democrats have done a great job of promoting and sustaining their constituency.

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Like most gun control, it only restricts people who obey the law.
    But of course we are not talking gun control here. I picture ID with a chip should eliminate any problems.

    If you are really intent on electoral fraud, you will get fake ID or find other ways around the system and other ways to commit fraud. For example, this one:
    Voter Fraud Confirmed; State Takes Over East Longmeadow Election - Western Massachusetts Breaking News and First Warning Weather with WGGB.com ABC 40

    That is clear evidence against those who try to claim there is no serious voter fraud going on. An individual photo ID with a chip as in a credit card, for every American citizen, seems to be the only way to guarantee, as much as possible, that voter rights are protected. If the people cannot respect the process then democracy itself is put at threat.

    Or the countless times when a candidate or his party get absentee ballots to deliver to the nursing home. Where they are so helpful in filling out the ballots "correctly." The only people who will be affected will be law abiding voters.
    Are you saying that there should not be voter ID because of Nursing Homes? I'm not sure of your point here.

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    Are you saying that there should not be voter ID because of Nursing Homes? I'm not sure of your point here.
    The point is that if a person or group of people really wants to commit electoral fraud, they will. Require voter ID, and they'll do it in some other way.

    An individual photo ID with a chip as in a credit card, for every American citizen
    That sounds like something from the USSR. "Everybody must have ID with them at all times. Your papers please..."


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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The point is that if a person or group of people really wants to commit electoral fraud, they will. Require voter ID, and they'll do it in some other way.
    Perhaps, but that is true of all laws. That does not mean we should not do our best to prevent crime from occurring.

    That sounds like something from the USSR. "Everybody must have ID with them at all times. Your papers please..."
    No, it is not something like the USSR. It is ID to vote, just as you have ID for the bank, for driving, for credit cards, job applications, and so on down the line.

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post



    No, it is not something like the USSR. It is ID to vote, just as you have ID for the bank, for driving, for credit cards, job applications, and so on down the line.
    All of those things are Drivers License. What you're talking about is a national ID with a microchip in it. Why don't we all line up and get a microchip implanted? That way the government can track our every move.


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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The point is that if a person or group of people really wants to commit electoral fraud, they will. Require voter ID, and they'll do it in some other way.
    That's a nonsensical position which justifies the elimination of every law. After all, if a person really wants to murder, they will.

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