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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I still think nation building was necessary in Afghanistan. Just leaving would have left nothing to prevent the Taliban from taking power again and giving refuge to some other terrorist group.

    But I don't know if it's possible there. The Soviets gave up after 10 years, we're still trying after 11.
    The opium industry is intact and the "terrorists" will return and scarf up all the nice weapons that we leave behind in short order, if Iran does not rush in first. The Karsai "gov't" will collapse as fast as the US pulls out. This is Vietnam all over again. This "country" has one paved road, no navy, no air force and a "rag tag", at best army. All we did was waste time, money, lives and wave flags. Lots of folks profitted handsomely in the defense industry here as did the corrupt gov't folks over there, but the crazy goat herders are still just crazy goat herders. The corrupt tribal culture remains intact, praise be to Allah!
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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Right Wingers ignorant of history and definition love to bring this up.

    They always say "NATIONAL SOCIALIST... etc"

    Yeah they were socialists... except they attempted to kill all the socialists and communists...

    They're about as socialist as North Korea is Democratic (Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea)
    No matter. they called themselves Socialists and the Socialists supported them. Same with the USSR. We can see the Left attacking those who dare challenge their lying and incompetence right on this thread.

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    even greater than having started the war in the first place?
    No problem starting a war, the problem seemed to be in finishing the war. Same with Afghanistan.

    The Americans didn't want to win, they wanted to be liked.

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I think we should have left Iraq alone. We should have gone in to Afganistan and, if necessary, Pakistan, with a multi national force and the mission of capturing or killing Bin Laden and his cohorts, then left and gone home. We should never have tried to initiate a nation building project in either of those two countries.

    Mine was definitely a minority opinion back when the invasions were taking place, but it seems that more and more people are agreeing with it all the time.
    I doubt that America will ever get a multinational force together again. They will only respond now if they, or one of their very closest allies, is attacked. And even that is open to question. Many lives were lost in Iraq and Afghanistan with nothing to show for it.In fact lives are still be lost in Afghanistan despite the retreat already being announced. that makes no sense to me.

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Wait, you mean North Korea isn't democratic? I'm shocked. It's right in the name after all...Next you're going to tell me that the German Democratic Republic was Communist....
    No, they were both Communist and the Leftists knew that, that's why they never marched in protest against either of them.

    This is one of the oldest excuses around.

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Without voter ID the numbers could mean anything. When dozens of precincts vote 100% for a single party candidate, which defies reliable statistics, then questions have to be raised.
    Certainly true, however, in this case, it did not defy reliable statistics; it affirmed them.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/80015.html
    Romney Has Zero Percent Support From African Americans In New NBC/WSJ Poll | Mediaite

    I forgot, Republicans were not keen on the pre-election polls. Remember this famous picture of a Republican ready to review the latest pre-election poll?

    PDHeadInSand.jpg
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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Certainly true, however, in this case, it did not defy reliable statistics; it affirmed them.

    Poll: 0 percent of blacks for Mitt Romney - Mackenzie Weinger - POLITICO.com
    Romney Has Zero Percent Support From African Americans In New NBC/WSJ Poll | Mediaite

    I forgot, Republicans were not keen on the pre-election polls. Remember this famous picture of a Republican ready to review the latest pre-election poll?

    PDHeadInSand.jpg
    Do you recall the debate in Florida with all the changing recounts, the 'dangling chads' etc. and yet somehow there are all these precincts where one party gets 100% of the vote? After what happened in Florida I find that very unlikely, but you seem to buy it and I'm certainly okay with that.

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Do you recall the debate in Florida with all the changing recounts, the 'dangling chads' etc. and yet somehow there are all these precincts where one party gets 100% of the vote? After what happened in Florida I find that very unlikely, but you seem to buy it and I'm certainly okay with that.
    I certainly remember the election of 2000. I do not, remember, however, any allegations of precincts with 100% of vote going to one party. Florida was a mess. It needed to be resolved. While I am not thrilled with the resolution, at the point that it ended up, it was a good as any.... maybe a coin flip would have been better. I am one that is bitter about a stolen election... it is what it is.

    Thankfully for all of us (the Union), the 2012 election was far more decisive. There is no rational argument for anything other than Obama ran away with it. In suggesting there was hanky-panky in Philly you have to overcome the argument that the outcome was completely consistent with the prevailing polls... and even, if we run with your over-active imagination, you gave 100% of those precincts to the other side (which, of course, is absurd), it would not have changed one thing in the ultimate verdict.
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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No problem starting a war, the problem seemed to be in finishing the war. Same with Afghanistan.

    The Americans didn't want to win, they wanted to be liked.
    There's nothing like invading someone else's country to win friends.
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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    so your saying both Bill Clinton and Hillary who both said he had the WMDS, were wrong?..and you think that El Beredai also was wrong?...

    the worst tragedy since 9/11 was Obama...
    That must explain why the country chose Obama to remain as President while dumbya needs to stay in hiding, even during elections, lest he embarrass his party even more

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