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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Nothing like being lose with the facts when it serves you correctly. Just to refine the facts: 118M out of 207M registered voters voted in 2012. That is 57% of the electorate. Given the state of the US electorate, one has to assume that many of those that did not vote do not care; likely because they have become disillusioned with US politics.

    The vast majority of those not registered but part of the US population of 311M are under 18 and thus not eligible to vote.



    Agreed. 51% of those interested and eligible to vote, voted for the President. Its silly to spin that any other way.

    Somehow inferring the President is illegitimate because he did not have a majority of Americans vote for him is silliness. To extent that, I doubt we ever had a president win the majority of eligible voters. When Obama won in 2008, he was the first president in 20 years to even win more than 51% of the actual vote.
    Turnout in this year's presidential and Senate primaries was the lowest on record, at 15.9 percent of eligible citizens, a new report found.

    Turnout reached record lows for presidential election years in 15 of 41 states which held statewide primaries in both parties. Democratic turnout dropped to record lows in 26 of 41 primaries. In the 46 states where Republican primaries were held, there were eight record lows and three record highs," according to the report by the Center for the Study of the American Electorate.

    The findings run counter to the common-sense notion that a close election means high turnout.

    Democratic turnout was at record lows in Alabama, at 5.3 percent of eligible voters, and 25 other states, including Maryland, at 8 percent. Presidential primaries in most states have been in place since 1972, so the national Democratic turnout was lower than in all recent cycles in which Democrats did not have a contested presidential primary.

    Read more: Voter turnout for 2012 statewide primaries was lowest on record - Washington Times
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    Did you think the Center for the Study of the American Electorate got their numbers wrong?

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Turnout in this year's presidential and Senate primaries was the lowest on record, at 15.9 percent of eligible citizens, a new report found.

    Turnout reached record lows for presidential election years in 15 of 41 states which held statewide primaries in both parties. Democratic turnout dropped to record lows in 26 of 41 primaries. In the 46 states where Republican primaries were held, there were eight record lows and three record highs," according to the report by the Center for the Study of the American Electorate.

    The findings run counter to the common-sense notion that a close election means high turnout.

    Democratic turnout was at record lows in Alabama, at 5.3 percent of eligible voters, and 25 other states, including Maryland, at 8 percent. Presidential primaries in most states have been in place since 1972, so the national Democratic turnout was lower than in all recent cycles in which Democrats did not have a contested presidential primary.

    Read more: Voter turnout for 2012 statewide primaries was lowest on record - Washington Times
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    Did you think the Center for the Study of the American Electorate got their numbers wrong?
    My numbers were based on the election, not the primaries. The primaries, almost by definition, field a low voter turnout... they are party functions. A large percent of the electorate are independents....Moreover, the primary of a incumbent party, particularly in a state dominated by the opposite party is not going to draw interest. The primaries on the other side were fundamentally a clown show; there was general lack of interest in the field as a whole than what we typically witness. The party was lukewarm on its eventual nominee. This was one of the biggest ho-hum elections of the modern era.

    I am not certain what you are trying to get at showing us primary voting turnout, particularly when by comments were about the general election. Who cares about primary turnout, especially given the aforementioned factors? Low turnout in primaries is more an indictment of a flawed election process than lack of voter participation,

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    You are absolutely Right.....even tho it wasn't Lou Dobbs and his Independent Tea party people. That and some of the Personalities like Murdoch and Akin. Plus Palin put her foot into her mouth several times as well. Course Romney didn't help the cause much.
    Well, this is the problem. In the Beginning, the Tea Party wasn't about Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney, or anybody else but grass roots locals who had legitimate concerns. But what was a great beginning was destroyed when the Republican Party co-opted the Tea Party and hijacked it, forcing their own agenda into it. At that point, it was no longer the Tea Party, but just another political party's douche bag of tricks. It is ironic that a popular movement, whose claim to fame was no party affiliation, was eventually destroyed by a party affiliation that was forced upon them.
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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Well, this is the problem. In the Beginning, the Tea Party wasn't about Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney, or anybody else but grass roots locals who had legitimate concerns. But what was a great beginning was destroyed when the Republican Party co-opted the Tea Party and hijacked it, forcing their own agenda into it. At that point, it was no longer the Tea Party, but just another political party's douche bag of tricks. It is ironic that a popular movement, whose claim to fame was no party affiliation, was eventually destroyed by a party affiliation that was forced upon them.
    Well when it comes to politics it's like this thread and the way it was put up. Not so much on the hearing but moreso over what Pauls Remarks were over comparing this with other tragedies. In which he had made others over Benghazi anyways.

    Otherwise the left doesn't want to really look and see how far this rabbit hole goes. Hence the Avoidance and Conspiracy rational and or excuses over it.

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayno View Post
    Barack Obama's base consists of people living in every ghetto, project, ward and barrio in America.......

    You know, the more educated and enlightened folks in their party............
    Jingal wants you to put a lid on it. You're making the party look bad.

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I can agree with most of what you said. Let me add that the Tea Party had a lot to do with many Republican voters not voting. IMHO, the extremism in the party kept them from voting.
    Yes, in the America of today talk of cutting government spending or expecting accountability is considered "extremism". That's why the country is failing.

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Jingal wants you to put a lid on it. You're making the party look bad.
    No one in the Republican party can withstand the demonization of the Leftists and their mainstream media. Mitt Romney and his family were some of the best America had to offer andbecause of that they could not run on records so they ay-ttacked the man and his wife. Even to try the truth with Obama is 'racist".

    The same holds true on this thread.

    Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton were clearly responsible for what happened in Benghazi but who ever mentions it, like Rand Paul, is demonized and hen the conversation again moves to criticism of the Republicans.

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Turnout in this year's presidential and Senate primaries was the lowest on record, at 15.9 percent of eligible citizens, a new report found.
    Let's see... round that figure to 16%, subtract an estimated 10% who always vote for the party they cheerlead for, and we're left with 6% of the population who actually chose the president. Estimate 200m million eligible voters, and we have 12 million voters who actually made a difference. The final tally was about 49% Romney and 51% Obama, and we're left with approximately six million who elected the president, less than the population of Los Angeles.

    But, those figures could be off. It might have been a lot fewer than that.
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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    It always tickles me when our more extreme rightwingers take it upon themselves to speak for the "USA." I always think to myself, "You got a mouse in your pocket?"

    He may be your enemy Travis, but most of the USA, certainly the majority, support Obama and not you or your brand of politics. Mathmatically, where the majority rules, doesn't that make you an enemy to the USA moreso than Obama?
    It always tickles me when someone comments on something and they are clueless...

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    Re: Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

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    Yes, as well as 72% of persons in teaching positions in colleges and universities... they would be considered the highly educated.

    You mean the folks who buy Democrats their political offices, so they can demand more from the poor students in the way of Student Loans, while they get paid ridiculous amounts NOT to teach?

    Yeah, so smart, they don't even know they're the FIRST folks who get put against a wall and shot when their schemes of "the greater village" finally bear fruit.....

    Most of them are just left over 60's radicals who couldn't make it in the tougher fields.

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