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Rand Paul tells Christie to stop his temper tantrums and grandstanding [W:53]

If people wish to use inefficient electrical devices they should be free to do that and others should be free to try to convince them to do otherwise in a respectful manner. If they don't accept their arguments or happen to have some use for these devices that other technologies can't provide than they should be free to continue to make that choice. It matters not to me and this drama about how it means horrible things for the grid is just that, drama.

Then they should expect to pay a higher premium on their home/property insurance because such idiots are sure to cause a fire and possible burn their house down possibly causing harm to themselves and others. It is really worth it to possibly lose your property can maybe your very life, as well as others, just because you wish to be the Burger King and have it your way?
 
I am trying to think of why any one would care what Rand Paul thinks, but I cannot come up with a reason to. I still find it fun to watch the republican party eat it's own.



Chris Christie is yours for the taking. Congrats!
 
No, it's not. Putting products on the market the needlessly waste water is.

Wrong. Liberty would be having the choice.

Btw, the first thing I do when I get a new shower head is to drill out the low flow BS. My toilet I picked up on auction and is from the 50s (my junk doesn't get wet when I sit down on the thing). Guess what, my water usage is half of what any of my neighbors use.
 
If a completely dogmatic idiot like Rand Paul is attacking Christie, that only strengthens his potential candidacy as far as I'm concerned.

I agree with that, and Christie has really grown into his office since Hurricane Sandy. I still don't like him, but at least he has shown himself to be a good public servant when it counted. Paul would have told his constituencies, that if he can't help them in an emergency, but he will fight for water wasting toilets for every home destroyed by one.

As to Paul's attack againt Christie's alleged "rant", that's like having Mel Gibson give anger management advice to Tom Bosley on Happy Days.
 
If people wish to use inefficient electrical devices they should be free to do that and others should be free to try to convince them to do otherwise in a respectful manner..

BS, I want to have light too. And if Rand Paul's selfish idealogical buffoonery causes my lights, my AC or what ever to go out the onus is on him.
 
Then they should expect to pay a higher premium on their home/property insurance because such idiots are sure to cause a fire and possible burn them house down possibly causing harm to themselves and others. It is really worth it just because you wish to be the Burger King and have it your way?

Wouldn't that be the other way around? Home owners insurance should be more for those who use CFL bulbs. The possibility of environmental and personal poisoning is far greater. Mercury.
 
Rand Paul is awesome and makes a good point, per usual
 
I would have a lot of trouble flushing my toilet if I spewed as much BS into it as rand paul spits out in a day.

I politely request that you recheck.

It is probably your hair from all of the swirlies that you have received when you were politically wrong. :2razz:
 
I agree with that, and Christie has really grown into his office since Hurricane Sandy. I still don't like him, but at least he has shown himself to be a good public servant when it counted. Paul would have told his constituencies, that if he can't help them in an emergency, but he will fight for water wasting toilets for every home destroyed by one.

As to Paul's attack againt Christie's alleged "rant", that's like having Mel Gibson give anger management advice to Tom Bosley on Happy Days.

Your praise of him is still more evidence that he has in fact switched parties, but lacks the integrity to formally do it. Christie has thrown all ethics out the window in desperation.
 
Wrong. Liberty would be having the choice.

Btw, the first thing I do when I get a new shower head is to drill out the low flow BS. My toilet I picked up on auction and is from the 50s (my junk doesn't get wet when I sit down on the thing). Guess what, my water usage is half of what any of my neighbors use.

This is why conservatives are going extinct in the US. Total lack of perspective and complete intellectual bankruptcy.

"A water wasting toilet in every home!" -- run with that guys, it's all you got.
 
This is why conservatives are going extinct in the US. Total lack of perspective and complete intellectual bankruptcy.

"A water wasting toilet in every home!" -- run with that guys, it's all you got.

"Water wasting toilets." LOL!
More lamentings of the failed in life.
 
Your praise of him is still more evidence that he has in fact switched parties, but lacks the integrity to formally do it. Christie has thrown all ethics out the window in desperation.

On in teaparty bizarroworld is Christie a democrat, and no longer a conservative. Keep it up! I love watching the Tea Party Purity Golem strangle one quasi-sane Republican after the next for making sense and rejecting with freakish claims of the GOP.
 
No, it's not.

Can I buy the toilet I desire? Yes or no. If the answer is no, you are wrong.

Putting products on the market the needlessly waste water is. You don't have the right to buy a lot of things that harm others. Grow up and get used to it.

Is wasting water somehow violating your rights?
 
I agree with that, and Christie has really grown into his office since Hurricane Sandy. I still don't like him, but at least he has shown himself to be a good public servant when it counted. Paul would have told his constituencies, that if he can't help them in an emergency, but he will fight for water wasting toilets for every home destroyed by one.

As to Paul's attack againt Christie's alleged "rant", that's like having Mel Gibson give anger management advice to Tom Bosley on Happy Days.

Pragmatists are usually the first to come under attack by the true believers. Paul is a true believer of the highest order, as are so many of today's so-called "libertarians".

It acts almost as a religion to these folks who need an extremely rigid ideology to provide them the comfort they need in order to address a chaotic world.
 
Wouldn't that be the other way around? Home owners insurance should be more for those who use CFL bulbs. The possibility of environmental and personal poisoning is far greater. Mercury.

I use CFL bulbs in various light fixtures throughout my home. The only problem I've ever had with them was when I used them in lights fixtures with a dimmer switch. (Of course, they do make CFL bulb specifically for light fixtures equipped with a dimmer swithc - found that out after the fact.) Otherwise, I have no problem with them. They last longer and I've haven't really seen much of a difference in my utility bill. (Of course, the weather has been very erratic the last few years. So, it's hard to say if merely changing my light bulbs has really saved me money or not. But I do know this: I've only had to buy light bulbs once in the last two years. So, take that for what it's worth.)
 
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BS, I want to have light too. And if Rand Paul's selfish idealogical buffoonery causes my lights, my AC or what ever to go out the onus is on him.

You had that problem in the past, did you?
 
I use CFL bulbs in various light fixtures throughout my home. The only problem I've ever had with them was when I used them in lights fixtures with a dimmer switch. Otherwise, I have no problem with them. The last longer and I've haven't really seen much of a difference in my utility bill. (Of course, the weather has been very erratic the last few years. So, it's hard to say if merely changing my light bulbs has really saved me money or not. But I do know this: I've only had to buy light bulbs once in the last two years. So, take that for what it's worth.)

Unlike the old bulbs they tend not to just blow, so if it seems like your eyes are going, you might want to change your bulbs as they dim over time. I use the Ottlite 100watt natural daylight ones and they are awesomeness in a corkscrew
 
Can I buy the toilet I desire? Yes or no. If the answer is no, you are wrong.



Is wasting water somehow violating your rights?

Might I ask what type of toilet you and Rand Paul want to buy that's either so expensive or extremely difficult for you to purchase on the open market? I mean, are you guys trying to install some Frech-style bidet or something that's only available in Europe? If so, perhaps you may want to contact an import company that carries your desired product. But if you do, wouldn't that still be available from "the free market system"? (See how absordly some people try to convulute the issues un-necessarily?)
 
Unlike the old bulbs they tend not to just blow, so if it seems like your eyes are going, you might want to change your bulbs as they dim over time. I use the Ottlite 100watt natural daylight ones and they are awesomeness in a corkscrew

Thanks! I'll take that under advisement.
 
Can I buy the toilet I desire? Yes or no. If the answer is no, you are wrong.

Your desire for wasteful toilets is noted, and I understand it's the basis of your political philosophy. And I'm laughing at it.

The answer is no, commerce is always regulated in an advanced economy. Grow up and get used to it. If you don't like it, win an election and put in politicians who promote wasteful toilets and throw out 30 years of environmental gains. Good luck!

By the way, go down to Home Depot -- they have low flow toilets that work just fine. Get out more!

Is wasting water somehow violating your rights?

Yep, since we all need water, and wasting it effects all of us with higher prices. Grow up and recognize that other people live here.
 
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Your desire for wasteful toilets is noted, and I understand it's the basis of your political philosophy. And I'm laughing at it.

The answer is no, commerce is always regulated in an advanced economy. Grow up and get used to it. If you don't like it, win an election and put in politicians who promote wasteful toilets. Good luck!



Yep, since we all need water, and wasting it effects all of us with higher prices. Grow up and recognize that other people live here.

I wonder if these guys are going to make appproiate plans for the water supply so they can have toilets.
 
Your desire for wasteful toilets is noted, and I understand it's the basis of your political philosophy. And I'm laughing at it.

The answer is no, commerce is always regulated in an advanced economy. Grow up and get used to it. If you don't like it, win an election and put in politicians who promote wasteful toilets. Good luck!

By the way, go down to Home Depot -- they have low flow toilets that work just fine. Get out more!



Yep, since we all need water, and wasting it effects all of us with higher prices. Grow up and recognize that other people live here.

But to Democrats higher prices are a good thing.
 
I use CFL bulbs in various light fixtures throughout my home. The only problem I've ever had with them was when I used them in lights fixtures with a dimmer switch. (Of course, they do make CFL bulb specifically for light fixtures equipped with a dimmer swithc - found that out after the fact.) Otherwise, I have no problem with them. They last longer and I've haven't really seen much of a difference in my utility bill. (Of course, the weather has been very erratic the last few years. So, it's hard to say if merely changing my light bulbs has really saved me money or not. But I do know this: I've only had to buy light bulbs once in the last two years. So, take that for what it's worth.)

Have you ever read the package? Read what they say about disposal. Read what you're supposed to do if one breaks in your home.

I use the old standbys which I picked up on sale when CFLs were coming in (50 cents apiece). The bulbs last me about two years, have a rich warm light that I like and I can put them in the trash to recycle without worry.
 
By the way, go down to Home Depot -- they have low flow toilets that work just fine. Get out more!

No, they don't. I have looked and they all seem to have the same problem. The only thing I noticed is that some have it worse than others.

Yep, since we all need water, and wasting it effects all of us with higher prices. Grow up and recognize that other people live here.

That doesn't violate your rights, lol.
 
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