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    Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    Some vulnerable Senate Democrats are balking at President Obama’s new push on gun control, reflecting the tough position many will be in if Congress takes up major firearms legislation.

    Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama
    These pricks want to support it, it's just the timing is bad for them... and if I were the RNC or someone running against one of these Socialists, I would make the case plain:

    1) We have a liar at the helm. A trickster who will do and say anything to get elected.

    2) The press are his partners. (Run through the history; using their telecasts to make the case.)

    3) A vote for this lying socialist is a vote for Obama's anti-American agenda; once reelected, he will tow the line.

    In every election... Obama should be the target; you can add Pelosi (S-CA) & Reid (S-NV). Vote for this Senator and representative, and you vote for America's accelerated demise. You've been fooled twice... you want to try and correct your mistakes, and put a break on the idiocy? Now is the time.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    interesting spin on the politicians listed in the article. I can only surmise the OP is either very new or highly selective in his memory of what politicians say in the beginning of any major political dance.

    I recall Boehner drawing severe lines in the sand over taxes and debt... only to be crushed on all sides and now a non-actor on the national stage.

    The Senate is supposed to go slow compared to the House. Time will tell how this all shakes out, balk wasn't the word I'd use but then again I am not Cameron Joseph. (I do hope he has raised his level of professionalism, he was suspended for piss poor reporting last august)

    Anywho, on the three points-

    The RNC can say, hey vote for our etch-a-sketch liar. We can lie with the best of 'em!

    Oh yes play the victim of the press card, show how mean the 4th Estate is, playing the legitimate rape comments to death along with the 47% comments... shame on them !!!! but then again 'the media' is a series of corporations and they are people too my friend...

    And seeing how the term 'socialist' was sooo successful this go-round by all means continue to flog that dead horse. Do ignore the fact many citizens see the GOP as taking a hard right tack, not the Dems going commie on us.

    Finally by all means do attempt to make a local election a national one, millions will pour in from outside the state and those bad ol' medias will make a bundle running attack ads for both sides! Wadda Country, feed those you hate!

    Personally I see some parts of the total agenda as not getting very far, but it is foolish to think everyone who is rural is also for urban folks running around with 30 round magazines and wouldn't mind a much better screening system for kooks in general and crooks at gun shows.

    But do keep up the Stalinistic style rhetoric- bitter, over the top, and imflammatory. Great for overheating the base, inciting the chior and turning off moderate folks...

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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    Alright Harry.....Tell them the Way it is!

    Obama push on gun control puts Reid in tough political spot.....

    Reid’s job is to help move President Obama’s agenda through the upper chamber, but he must also protect his five-seat Senate majority, and gun-rights groups are threatening to go after vulnerable Senate Democrats who back the president’s calls for a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines.

    Reid (D-Nev.), who has a long history with gun rights and the National Rifle Association, has been cagey in response to questions about how he will proceed. He knows a wrong move could cost his party its majority in 2014, another difficult cycle for Senate Democrats defending seven seats in states carried by Mitt Romney in November.

    Already, a coalition of 36 groups supporting gun owners’ rights has formed to retaliate against any Democratic senator who votes for restrictions on gun and ammo sales.

    Reid said Wednesday he will bring legislation addressing gun violence — verbiage Democrats have adopted as more politically palatable than “gun control” — to the Senate floor. But Reid has balked at the prospect of making a strong push on a new federal assault-weapons ban because it would be a political liability and he doubts the House would pass it.

    “Let’s be realistic,” Reid recently told PBS’s “Nevada Week in Review.” “In the Senate, we’re going to do what we think can get through the House, and I’m not going to go through a bunch of gyrations just to say we’ve done something. If we’re really legislators, the purpose of it is to pass legislation.”

    Reid made no mention of proposals to ban new assault weapons or limit high-capacity clips after Obama unveiled them Wednesday.

    “I thank the president’s task force for its thoughtful recommendations,” he said in a statement. “I am committed to ensuring that the Senate will consider legislation that addresses gun violence and other aspects of violence in our society early this year.”

    If Reid tries to protect endangered Democratic incumbents from voting on gun-control measures, he could be helped by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), which has jurisdiction over the issue. Leahy has a history of support for gun owners’ rights and has called for a practical approach to new legislation.

    Senate sources believe gun-violence legislation will come up for a vote in the Senate, but the question is whether an assault-weapons ban or curb on high-capacity ammunition will be included in the base bill or offered as amendments to the legislation. Leahy will decide that.....snip~

    Obama push on gun control puts Reid in tough political spot - The Hill

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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    These pricks want to support it, it's just the timing is bad for them... and if I were the RNC or someone running against one of these Socialists, I would make the case plain:

    1) We have a liar at the helm. A trickster who will do and say anything to get elected.

    2) The press are his partners. (Run through the history; using their telecasts to make the case.)

    3) A vote for this lying socialist is a vote for Obama's anti-American agenda; once reelected, he will tow the line.

    In every election... Obama should be the target; you can add Pelosi (S-CA) & Reid (S-NV). Vote for this Senator and representative, and you vote for America's accelerated demise. You've been fooled twice... you want to try and correct your mistakes, and put a break on the idiocy? Now is the time.
    What demorats all agree on is the need to increase federal power and spending. Note that the "disagreement" is simply to gun control (AWB/MCL stuff) not to any more borrow and spend "emergency" and "crisis" things, like sending gobs of money to their state's school systems (security! we need security!) and adding gobs more of "unfunded" mandates (or increased subsidies) to PPACA to increase "access" to mental health care. Rest assured that, whether any "common sense" is involved or not, demorats will come to agreement for more immediate federal (borrowing and) spending, since no "crisis" can be allowed to go to waste. These "fence sitters", aided by the MSM (and the pressure of Obama and Reid) will assert that even though they do not "fully support" the restrictive portions of this "emergency" legislation they see the overwhelming need for the federal spending portions, that will "protect children" and grant "access to" long overdue mental health care system "improvements".

    The bottom line is that demorats all value increased federal spending and control much more than the mere freedom of the law abiding citizens. Sacrifices in our freedom are needed to borrow and spend more federal money on important stuff.

    http://teriobrien.com/2012/07/24/did...oters-rampage/

    http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/did...ernment-grant/
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    We must protect the children from being murdered unless that would put us at risk in which case we must protect our Senate Majority first..........principles you know

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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    They all gave explanations and not one of them said "Well I'm worried about my re-election."
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    It's nice to see Democrats between a rock and a hard place...of their own choosing.

    Expect to see a lot of spin from the Democrats and the media about how this is all the Republican's fault.
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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They all gave explanations and not one of them said "Well I'm worried about my re-election."
    ROTFLOL... now that's funny...
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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    Editor's addition in red:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    It's nice to see Democrats between a rock and a hard place...of their own choosing.

    Expect to see a lot of spin from the Democrats and the media about how this is all the Republican's fault, or that Republicans are racists.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Editor's addition in red:
    When I hire you to be my editor, THEN you will have the right to alter my words when you quote me. Until then, please limit yourself to quoting my words as I have posted them and then responding to them in your own post.

    Thank you.

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