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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    These pricks want to support it, it's just the timing is bad for them... and if I were the RNC or someone running against one of these Socialists, I would make the case plain:

    1) We have a liar at the helm. A trickster who will do and say anything to get elected.

    2) The press are his partners. (Run through the history; using their telecasts to make the case.)

    3) A vote for this lying socialist is a vote for Obama's anti-American agenda; once reelected, he will tow the line.

    In every election... Obama should be the target; you can add Pelosi (S-CA) & Reid (S-NV). Vote for this Senator and representative, and you vote for America's accelerated demise. You've been fooled twice... you want to try and correct your mistakes, and put a break on the idiocy? Now is the time.
    Don't really care if they really believe what they say here or not, so long as they vote that way. I probably wouldn't support any of them for re-election, but I don't really care what they actually believe, just how they vote. I don't know about the rest of them, but I do think Mark Begich is actually being truthful there.
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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    Bill Clinton blamed the Assault Weapons Ban for turning the Congress red in 1994, which is why Democrats are so scared of it. And rightfully so. Even appear to infringe on the citizens' rights and you will lose your seat. Either no legislation gets passed and the Dems likely retain control of the Senate (though, I'm guessing now their margin will shrink to one or two seats), or they do pass legislation and the Congress goes full Republican again. It will be a pyrrhic victory of sorts either way it goes: either we retain the rights we currently have, or the Dems get thrown out on their rump. But to pay for that pyrrhic victory, we have to either lose some of our rights or at least be bombarded with propaganda aimed at down that gunsight. And the only good part about a congress being all red, besides the inherent gag order it would issue democrats, is that we wouldn't be bombarded with angry leftist rhetoric that the Republicans were blocking their efforts anymore. I'm not such a fool to think that a Republican-majority congress is a panacea, but at least the braying and whining of the Democrats would be turned down a few notches. The Republicans suck too, but at least they don't go after constitutional rights.

    Damn. And here I thought a libertarian agenda was the only conceivable and viable option for the next go'round. Never underestimate the Democrats' ability and penchant for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Perhaps they knew their time was running out, so why not embolden the other established party, get them comfortable and cocky, so they can rape us again with another decade of Democrat control in 10 or 15 years.
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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    Don't really care if they really believe what they say here or not, so long as they vote that way. I probably wouldn't support any of them for re-election, but I don't really care what they actually believe, just how they vote. I don't know about the rest of them, but I do think Mark Begich is actually being truthful there.
    What matters is their voting record... that's right; and where were these beacons of sanity when ObamaKare was being shoved down our throats using parliamentary tricks... after Scott Brown had taken the dishonorable Dead Kennedy's seat? The Socialist Party showed us what they are made of... there are no Blue Dawgs... there are no conservative democrats.

    Do you recall what happened to Liebermann, a former VP candidate after he was the lone wolf to go against the Socialists on Iraq... after some Socialists voted to send troops and then betrayed them in their moment of need... double fisting knives in their backs? The Socialists will vote to send troops to war because it is politically expedient... then they will stab them in the back because it is politically expedient. THAT is how sickening and deceitful the Socialists are.

    What they believe matters, and their saying they will vote one way today will be replaced by enlightenment later on. You cannot trust the Socialists of Amerika Partei (SAPs). They will screw you every chance they get. This isn't an opportune moment for some... but give the bastards a bit of breathing room... and they'll vote for the Sozialistiche Partei Platform all day long.
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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    When I hire you to be my editor, THEN you will have the right to alter my words when you quote me. Until then, please limit yourself to quoting my words as I have posted them and then responding to them in your own post.

    Thank you.

    I don't appreciate you playing the race card with my words.
    ROTFLOL... I'll play editor when I please thanks.

    No race card... just summing up the knee-jerk tendencies of the Socialists during the past 5-years.
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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    Bill Clinton warned the Dems about playing around with gun control. He said they underestimate their opposition.
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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    These pricks want to support it, it's just the timing is bad for them... and if I were the RNC or someone running against one of these Socialists, I would make the case plain:

    1) We have a liar at the helm. A trickster who will do and say anything to get elected.

    2) The press are his partners. (Run through the history; using their telecasts to make the case.)

    3) A vote for this lying socialist is a vote for Obama's anti-American agenda; once reelected, he will tow the line.

    In every election... Obama should be the target; you can add Pelosi (S-CA) & Reid (S-NV). Vote for this Senator and representative, and you vote for America's accelerated demise. You've been fooled twice... you want to try and correct your mistakes, and put a break on the idiocy? Now is the time.
    Honestly...isn't that democracy at work? Individuals baling at gun laws due to the views of their constituents?
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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    I highly doubt they will be able to pass Feinsteins ban legislation. I doubt it makes it through the senate and it damn sure wont pass the house. What will be missed throughout this whole process is just how ridiculous this whole charade is. While they keep clamoring for "military style assault weapon bans" thousands of people will die in inner city violence from good old fashioned ordinary handguns, shotguns, knives, etc.

    Yay...gun ban! 'For the children'!

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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Honestly...isn't that democracy at work? Individuals baling at gun laws due to the views of their constituents?
    CONSTITUTION... you can't just pass any law, and we have no King (Obama's executive orders).

    We have a right to bear arms... to protect ourselves from and to have a tyrannical government fear US... we the people. Not for hunting.
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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I highly doubt they will be able to pass Feinsteins ban legislation. I doubt it makes it through the senate and it damn sure wont pass the house. What will be missed throughout this whole process is just how ridiculous this whole charade is. While they keep clamoring for "military style assault weapon bans" thousands of people will die in inner city violence from good old fashioned ordinary handguns, shotguns, knives, etc.

    Yay...gun ban! 'For the children'!
    And how many deaths and how much misery has Socialist legislation favored and promoted by PARASITE NATION caused?
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    Re: Vulnerable Senate Democrats balk at Obama’s gun control measures

    Its a little bit funny. One of the weapons specifically listed on the Feinstein Ban is a Hi Point Carbine. The Carbine is chambered in .45 caliber and from the factory holds only 9 rounds. A perfectly legal 45 mm handgun can carry more ordinance. The difference? The carbine has a pistol grip (no...wait...the handgun also has a pistol grip). The carbine has a red dot laser optics sight (no...wait...the handgun rail also holds a laser sight). The carbine...well...it can be used with a strap! yeah...THATS what makes it an evil gun...ban it!

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