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    re: Ex-Bachmann aide alleges campaign finance violations [W:26]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    No, Bachmann has been ACCUSED of stiffing her staff...

    See the difference?
    No, that's not an accusation but a fact. Bachmann made payment contingent on them signing a nondisclosure statement, which they refused. That is not in contention.

    The contention is whether she violated campaign finance rules, which seem increasingly likely since she attempted to strongarm her staffers -- very close staffers by the way -- into not reporting her.

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    re: Ex-Bachmann aide alleges campaign finance violations [W:26]

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I would be? Man, I'm glad you know me so well! Have we met? Don't try to perpetuate your partisanship onto me. I call it how I see it. If Bachmann shorted staffers, she sucks. No two ways about it. The big difference is, it's still an allegation with her. Pres Obama's campaign was found guilty of violations. Can you answer for that or are you going to continue to avoid your boy's faults and point out everyone else's?
    Obama's campaign was not found liable for any substantive violations. Bachmann, however, faces serious allegations.

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    re: Ex-Bachmann aide alleges campaign finance violations [W:26]

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    No, that's not an accusation but a fact. Bachmann made payment contingent on them signing a nondisclosure statement, which they refused. That is not in contention.
    And what is wrong with that?

    The contention is whether she violated campaign finance rules, which seem increasingly likely since she attempted to strongarm her staffers -- very close staffers by the way -- into not reporting her.
    What 'strongarming' can you prove?

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    re: Ex-Bachmann aide alleges campaign finance violations [W:26]

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Obama's campaign was not found liable for any substantive violations. Bachmann, however, faces serious allegations.
    There's that "serious" word again. So subjective......What do you not understand about the article provided earlier bro? The guy's campaign had one of the largest fines in history levied against it. I guess it was the death by 1000 cuts theory huh?
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    re: Ex-Bachmann aide alleges campaign finance violations [W:26]

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    No, that's not an accusation but a fact. Bachmann made payment contingent on them signing a nondisclosure statement, which they refused. That is not in contention.

    The contention is whether she violated campaign finance rules, which seem increasingly likely since she attempted to strongarm her staffers -- very close staffers by the way -- into not reporting her.
    Seems this is common (note how similar Bachmann and Obama are...):

    Lines were long and tempers flared Wednesday not to vote but to get paid for canvassing for Barack Obama. Several hundred people are still waiting to get their pay for last-minute campaigning. Police were called to the Obama campaign office on North Meridian Street downtown to control the crowd.

    The line was long and the crowd was angry at times.

    "I want my money today! It's my money. I want it right now!" yelled one former campaign worker.
    Obama campaign: Unpaid wages resolved - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

    In the end the discrepancy was alleviated and I’m sure the same will occur in the Bachmann episode…stiff indeed...
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    re: Ex-Bachmann aide alleges campaign finance violations [W:26]

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    There's that "serious" word again. So subjective......What do you not understand about the article provided earlier bro? The guy's campaign had one of the largest fines in history levied against it. I guess it was the death by 1000 cuts theory huh?
    Subjective? Did you read the article. She faces a criminal investigation.


    Waldron also alleges that the campaign concealed payments to Iowa state campaign chairman Kent Sorenson, a state senator who abruptly left the Bachmann camp to join then-U.S. Rep. Ron Paul's insurgent campaign. Under Iowa Senate rules, Waldron maintains, Sorenson could not perform paid work for a presidential campaign.

    FEC records show that the campaign paid Short more than $104,580 through his Colorado-based company, C&M Strategies, between July and November of 2011. At the same time, MichelePAC, the leadership organization that Short helped her start, was paying him an average of $5,000 a month.

    Records show no payments from the campaign to Short or his company in the month leading up to the Jan. 3, 2012, Iowa caucuses, where Bachmann finished in sixth place.

    Short, who had worked in Bachmann's congressional office and also on her 2012 congressional campaign, told campaign workers at the time that he was volunteering on the Bachmann presidential campaign. Others were asked to do the same as the campaign limped through the final days of the Iowa caucuses.

    But the FEC records show that MichelePAC made two separate $20,000 payments to Short on Dec. 6 and Jan. 3, a time when he was supervising operations for the Iowa campaign as Bachmann's national political director, which is not typically a volunteer position.

    While Short continued to get paid, others agreed to forgo checks during the Christmas season. Among them were Waldron and a half-dozen other workers who are still owed money from the campaign. "To me, that was unconscionable," Waldron said.


    One of those involved in the payment dispute is Barbara Heki, who sued the campaign last year over the use of a database listing the names and e-mail addresses of thousands of Christian home-school families. Although the campaign eventually agreed to pay $2,000 for the list, the lawsuit continues, as does a separate criminal investigation

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    re: Ex-Bachmann aide alleges campaign finance violations [W:26]

    When you are a JV player working for a JV team, don't be surprised if you do not get your letter, or in this case, paycheck.

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    re: Ex-Bachmann aide alleges campaign finance violations [W:26]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Seems this is common (note how similar Bachmann and Obama are...):



    Obama campaign: Unpaid wages resolved - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

    In the end the discrepancy was alleviated and I’m sure the same will occur in the Bachmann episode…stiff indeed...
    Pssst: Bachmann faces a criminal investigation.

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    re: Ex-Bachmann aide alleges campaign finance violations [W:26]

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    All the personal insults and metaposting by the tea party types only shows how discredited conservatism in. Bachmann stiffs her staff and now faces campaign violation charges, and all the conservatives can do is talk about me.

    More evidence that conservatism is morally bankrupt.
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    re: Ex-Bachmann aide alleges campaign finance violations [W:26]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    And what is wrong with that?

    What 'strongarming' can you prove?
    The criminal investigation has the task of proving her crimes, but the strongarming isn't even denied. Bachmann withheld payment contingent on the staffers signing away their rights to report campaign violations. She doesn't even deny that.

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