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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Why should a Dr. ask a mentally sane person about their guns just because they have a kid?
    Where did you get that from?
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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

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    Where did you get that from?
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    Doctors and other health care providers also need to be able to ask about firearms in their patients’ homes and safe storage of those firearms, especially if their patients show signs of certain mental illnesses or if they have a young child or mentally ill family member at home.
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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

    my Doc asks me about firearms all the time.
    why on our last visit ,he was asking what he could do to make better cold bore shots.
    turns out cold bore wasn't his problem... clean bore was.
    told him to foul his rifle the day before the hunt and he'd be fine.

    the time before that, we spoke about optics.. he prefers Nikon over Leupold... he's stupid like that.
    I gave him an old Swarovski i've had laying around , now all of a sudden he's a glass snob.

    I don't think he's going to be very useful to Obama...

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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    So you think that a doctor who is treating a mentally unstable patient shouldn't ask the question "do you have guns in your home?"?
    That is not what this is about. Or is Goshin mentally unstable?
    This is Obama and his Socialists Little Gun Gestapo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Already been asked this question by a doc. My answer was "I decline to answer". He moved on to the next question without a blink. That will continue to be my policy.
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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    my Doc asks me about firearms all the time.
    why on our last visit ,he was asking what he could do to make better cold bore shots.
    turns out cold bore wasn't his problem... clean bore was.
    told him to foul his rifle the day before the hunt and he'd be fine.

    the time before that, we spoke about optics.. he prefers Nikon over Leupold... he's stupid like that.
    I gave him an old Swarovski i've had laying around , now all of a sudden he's a glass snob.

    I don't think he's going to be very useful to Obama...
    That's such a big mistake many people make in long range shooting. Always swab your barrel the exact same number of times, and never more than 3 or 4 times. Too clean of a barrel is going to throw off your first shot, sometimes rather dramatically.

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    If you'd like a discussion on gun control, please try to find a site that isn't such a right wing pundit rag.
    Can we get a list of Muddy Creek approved news sources? We wouldn't want you excluding yourself from the conversation.
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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Can we get a list of Muddy Creek approved news sources? We wouldn't want you excluding yourself from the conversation.
    Let me guess... "unbiased" sources like huffington, mediamatters and kos. And Michael Moore.

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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Let me guess... "unbiased" sources like huffington, mediamatters and kos. And Michael Moore.
    I don't even know why I brought it up, I'm actually really glad he decided not to talk to us.
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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    MD's are now law enforcement.

    I can't wait until our medical records are public... of course... for the good of the nation.
    There's nothing really new about this. If a patient is a significant risk to themselves or others, this is an appropriate question. Depending on the seriousness of the threat and the patient's response, will govern the health care provider's reaction.

    However, if there is no risk of harm, there is no reason to ask the question.
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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    That is not what this is about. Or is Goshin mentally unstable?
    This is Obama and his Socialists Little Gun Gestapo.
    Actually, that's EXACTLY what it's about. Reread what you posted. It was all about threats of violence and issues around harm and mental illness. Goshin being asked was inappropriate unless there was cause. There's really nothing new about what is being suggested... except maybe the "young child in the home" thing, which, in that case, is not really appropriate to ask.
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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

    This was proposed two years ago. It makes as much sense to also have doctors ask the kids if mommie or daddy text while driving, eat while driving, put make-up on while driving. It makes as much sense for doctors to ask if the patient is gay and actively engage in sexual activity or if they are heterosexual and practicing safe sex at all times. It makes as much sense as doctors interrogating children to see if there are any unsafe activities in the home. Medical doctors should be able to interrogate the children to see if the parents or guardians are providing them healthy meals, especially those families on welfare. Med doctors should also ask if the family has or allows for the usage of violent video games.

    We should also make sure that we the people have full access to medical records to ensure that the person we are about to sell a car to isn't experiencing or hasn't recently been treated for depression or anxiety. We should be able to check to see if prospective tenants have any type of medical or mental health disorders that might be exclusionary criteria for renting to them (hey...James Holmes turned his apartment into a boobietrap that could have literally killed thousands).

    In turn, patients should interrogate doctors on number of prescriptions they write annually, on if they are ****ing their nurse or administrative assistant, what their latest lab and tox screens show, if they smoke or drink, if they are having any type of sexual relationships outside the bonds of marriage, if they get enough sleep, and what medications they themselves might be taking.

    Look...its one thing if the person is mentally ill or mentally unstable. We do that now. Its quite another thing to ask by routine or matter of course a mentally healthy individual (whatever that really means) personal questions beyond the scope of a routine medical examination.

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