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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I choose not to play your silly game. You take any 5,000 and eliminate them. I recommend starting with the most current and moving backward in time eliminating them until we have full employment.

    We need to massively reduce the scope of government involvement in our lives. Why can't I buy any lightbulb I choose? Why can't I buy a toilet that actually flushes? Why does some ninny come to tell me I must have a fence so children who do not live here will not fall in a place they are unlikely to play? Why can't I buy a two ton car anymore? Why does the government have any say over how many miles my car must go on a gallon of gasoline?
    I didn't think you'd be able to answer the question, most people that throw out that statement can't. Why don't you have a toilet that flushes, maybe you need to call a plumber. I had one a couple months ago that was worn out, I went to Lowes and bought a new one. The only real difference is the new one uses less water but still flushes just fine. I don't know why you want a 2 ton car, but they are still available. What light bulbs are you talking about. You can go to the dollar store and buy them for .25 each. You're the type of person that just wants grip and play victim.
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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    I didn't think you'd be able to answer the question, most people that throw out that statement can't. Why don't you have a toilet that flushes, maybe you need to call a plumber. I had one a couple months ago that was worn out, I went to Lowes and bought a new one. The only real difference is the new one uses less water but still flushes just fine. I don't know why you want a 2 ton car, but they are still available. What light bulbs are you talking about. You can go to the dollar store and buy them for .25 each. You're the type of person that just wants grip and play victim.
    Okay. You are one of those. Sometimes posters have to be fired. You are fired.

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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Okay. You are one of those. Sometimes posters have to be fired. You are fired.
    It's not my fault that you can't back up statements you make. You made statements, I asked you questions about your statements and you can't or won't stand behind them.
    I confess, I did it, I let the dogs out.

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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    It's not my fault that you can't back up statements you make. You made statements, I asked you questions about your statements and you can't or won't stand behind them.
    You continue to be one of those. Do not be a drone. Drones are boring. Did I not say you are fired?

    If you say something interesting or substantive I will respond. Otherwise not.

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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    You continue to be one of those. Do not be a drone. Drones are boring. Did I not say you are fired?

    If you say something interesting or substantive I will respond. Otherwise not.
    So basically your saying that you don't like to be asked questions about statements you make because you just can't stand behind them.
    I confess, I did it, I let the dogs out.

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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    If they offend you then sue them. Rich nations do a better job of cleaning up than poor nations. This sounds like a state or local problem. It is not a federal one unless you want to make the general case where water moves across state boundaries.
    I would just as soon save myself the trouble and St. Jude's the patients.

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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    But couldn't most of the blame be put on the people that hire these illegals. They don't have to pay taxes on these employees, they can pay them under the table next to nothing. Have you ever seen a house with 4 or 5 families of illegals living in it and they still manage to get food stamps and go to the ER at our expense.
    Blame? What blame? Those folks risk everything to come here and bust their ass to succeed. I'd rather keep all 30 million of them and send those to weak, lazy or entitled from this country to whatever country those other folks came from. **** them. Yes...they bust their ass. Yes...sometimes they live several people to a house. Yes...they even go without (gasp) internet, cable, cellphones, etc.

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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

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    Goshin must be somewhat unstable... you might want to rethink his position as "moderator". Perhaps banning him altogether.
    This is a complete nonsense response. Try following the discussion for once so you know what's being discussed.
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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    However there is a world of difference in asking t of someone that is at risk vs asking it of patients on a routine basis or of querying their kids.
    And is saying that it's not prohibited for Drs to ask the question the same thing as saying that Drs should ask the question routinely?
    AFAICT, the two are not the same.
    Also afaict, there's no indication that Drs have been asked to ask the question routinely.
    Is there some language in the EO which says that Drs are required to ask us about our firearms any more often than they have in the past 237 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Or...do you support them also inquiring about every other potential dangerous action and behavior?
    I suupoert Drs being free to make the decision however they see fit.
    They have been able to ask the question my entire life. In all these years, I have never been asked that question. So, I think Drs are capable of handling the ability to ask people about their firearms responsibly.
    Is there some reason why you think Drs will suddenly become irresponsible busybodies just because Obama verbalized an aspect of the status quo?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Doctors roles are not to query patients, teach patients about the eeeeevils of firearms, or act as a grand inquisitor. Working as closely with doctors as I do I can tell you that most WON'T.
    I know. We have centuries of history of living with Drs who have been allowed to ask us about firearms.

    Before a week ago, no one seemed to notice our centuries of living with this incredible threat, (to w/e the hell it's a threat to), to complain about it.
    I don't think it has been that big of a deal--at least not until Obama said aloud that Drs have this ability.
    Then this hysteria broke out.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    They MAY have their intern or administrative secretary give community health surveys.
    FYI, Obamacare expressly prohibits the govt collecting that sort of data. So even if your Dr asks you about it, the govt doesn't get to know. That proscription on the govt collecting the data is the reason for the clarification, afaict.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Other tyrants have used the children for secret police. Why shouldn't ours?
    And you think that having a law which explicitly prohibits the govt from collecting this sort of data is a sign that the govt is going to collect this sort of data?

    Isn't there some point, where you go, "Whoah! I am getting a little paranoid,"?

    People who're trying to sell you outrage shouldn't be trusted anymore than any other advertiser.
    I may be wrong.

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