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W.H. Releases Letters from Little Kids Pleading for Gun Control

cpwill said:
This crap is so blatant and over the top it's the kind of thing you'd expect to see on the Simpsons. "Won't Somebody think of the CHILdrun!" :roll:
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The bad news is that it obviously works on a segment of the population.
 
Why I think its stupid. Ask someone a question right after a tragic event, (lets say someone gets drunk and runs over a bunch of kids at a crosswalk) and they might say we should ban alcohol. Ask someone after a plane plows into a building and kills a thousand people if they think muslims should not be allowed on planes and they might say yes.

What this lacks is perspective. Those little kids don't have guns, they see no reason to have them, so naturally they think it is an easy solution to just take them away.

Kids don't know that if you banned all law abiding citizens from having guns that they would still pour across the borders ( like drugs) leaving the disarmed citizens at a major disadvantage.
 
lizzie said:
I don't have a problem with buying an AR15, since it's not an assault rifle. It's the misuse of terms that irritates me, because it feeds a general ignorance about the subject of guns. Gun dealers are required to do background checks. Individuals are not (as it should be).
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How are gun dealers being required to do a background check? What is the system used?
 
danarhea said:
I go to the gun show at the George Brown Convention Center here in Houston every year, up until 2009, when I got my DWI (Was not allowed to own a firearm during my probation for that). I bought my Model-16 there, which is a semi-automatic .22 calibre rifle that was made to look like an M-16, and manufactured by Arms Corporation of the Philippines. I did not get a background check when I purchased it. I bought the weapon, and then walked out the door with it.
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Then clearly it differs from state to state. And that supports the 10th. But to generally say anyone can go to any gun show and buy without a background check is to not state the truth.

In CO, they do checks, there's a booth just for doing checks for any gun sold at the show, so that even covers private sales, which is most of the booths at the show.
 
Catawba said:
NRA's target: Obama's kids
NRA targets president's kids - Google Search
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I listened to a good bit of left wing radio today. It seems the left is outraged by the NRA ad. How horrible they use the presidents CHILDREN to make a point. Yet they defend the president using other peoples kids to make a point, including kids that were murdered.

Wow.
 
Arbo said:
I listened to a good bit of left wing radio today. It seems the left is outraged by the NRA ad. How horrible they use the presidents CHILDREN to make a point. Yet they defend the president using other peoples kids to make a point, including kids that were murdered.

Wow.
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The president didn't ask the kids to write to him asking for gun control. And I haven't heard anyone on right wing radio being outraged by the NRA ad.
 
Catawba said:
The president didn't ask the kids to write to him asking for gun control.
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It's questionable that the kids actually wrote the letters, or wrote them of their own free will.
 
Catawba said:
NRA's target: Obama's kids
NRA targets president's kids - Google Search
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Yeah except woops, they didn't.

Here's the text:

Are the president's kids more important than yours? Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools, when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school.

You will note it is not attacking the Presidents' kids, but rather the President's liberal elite hypocrisy in assuming that he has the right to ensure that his children be protected but you shouldn't have the right to protect yours.

...aaaaand once again, the hyperventilating overreactors break Godwins Law and only end up making themselves look stupid. Do you have any idea how your side looks like a bunch of idiot ninnies right now?



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this is the anti-gun side, right now.
 
cpwill said:
Yeah except woops, they didn't.

Here's the text:

Are the president's kids more important than yours? Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools, when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school.

You will note it is not attacking the Presidents' kids, but rather the President's liberal elite hypocrisy in assuming that he has the right to ensure that his children be protected but you shouldn't have the right to protect yours.

...aaaaand once again, the hyperventilating overreactors break Godwins Law and only end up making themselves look stupid. Do you have any idea how your side looks like a bunch of idiot ninnies right now?



think-of-the-children.jpg



this is the anti-gun side, right now.
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Why is it suddenly liberal to want to protect the President from the harm of whoever seeks to harm him or his family? The populist message adopted by the NRA's recent advertising campaign is too radically liberal and democratic for me. At least within the Bush administration, we had populist conservatives that respected protecting the President of the United States and his family, and it was the liberals that were so utterly focused on the evils of the top. Don't tell me I need to start siding with the Democrats again. I just got done severing the cord.
 
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Arbo said:
It's questionable that the kids actually wrote the letters, or wrote them of their own free will.
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I have no doubt that you find it questionable.
 
Catawba said:
I have no doubt that you find it questionable.
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That you don't just exposes the partisan blinders you wear.

Any politician that puts on such a dog and pony show should be questioned as to the authenticity of their claims. I'd put money down that all those kids parents are registered (D)'s...

But don't get me wrong, it's the same BS the right pulls from time to time. Maybe one day you'll see the BS for the BS it is, even among the people you like and support.
 
cpwill said:
You gotta be friggin kidding me. Really? They are really that crass?




:roll: Yup. They really are.
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Prolly 99% of them were at the direction of parents or teachers...
 
Arbo said:
It's questionable that the kids actually wrote the letters, or wrote them of their own free will.
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then who wrote them in their stead?
 
justabubba said:
then who wrote them in their stead?
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I don't know if someone wrote them for them, or coached them through it. It really doesn't matter though, the point is the president USED them for political purposes.
 
Arbo said:
I don't know if someone wrote them for them,
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now i have to wonder who wrote this for you [emphasis added by bubba]:
Arbo said:
It's questionable that the kids actually wrote the letters, or wrote them of their own free will.
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... or coached them through it. It really doesn't matter though, the point is the president USED them for political purposes.
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the president represents them just as he represents those who have reached the age of emancipation
the president shared the opinions of those school children with us
why is that a problem?
 
justabubba said:
now i have to wonder who wrote this for you [emphasis added by bubba]:



the president represents them just as he represents those who have reached the age of emancipation
the president shared the opinions of those school children with us
why is that a problem?
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Honestly, because children know two things about how the world works: jack and ****. They need to sit down and STFU and let the adults talk... and the adults need to quit exploiting them this way.

As I said, I expect the vast majority of these alleged letters were written at the direction of a parent, teacher, or someone else pushing their agenda.

In any case WTF does a 8-10yo know that we need to hear... most of them don't know real life from Sims 2.
 
Manc Skipper said:
If that were true, then it merely points to opposition being even more widespread than just children.
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How many letters were there? A few dozen teachers pushing students to write could generate hundreds.


Record guns sales and record new NRA sign-ups are more siginficant of how much opposition there is.
 
I wonder about all the kids that don't want to see Constitutional rights trampled on and want their teachers and parents to be able to protect them if an evil man with no regard for the law shows up and tries to murder them all. Would Obama share those letters? Maybe I should write my letter as to how a responsible gun owner saved lives with my own being among them.
 
Goshin said:
Honestly, because children know two things about how the world works: jack and ****. They need to sit down and STFU and let the adults talk... and the adults need to quit exploiting them this way.
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assuming most who are on this site are adults, it strikes me that many of these kids have a substantially better reasoning capacity than those who express opposition to any form of gun control

As I said, I expect the vast majority of these alleged letters were written at the direction of a parent, teacher, or someone else pushing their agenda.
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well, we can be certain the NRA is doing nothing to mobilize opposition to effecting gun controls [/s]


In any case WTF does a 8-10yo know that we need to hear... most of them don't know real life from Sims 2.
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because they are young does not mean they are stupid
and based on significant number of the opposition posts in this forum it is obvious just because those posters are of age does not mean they are not stupid
 
900 Americans have died in gun violence in the 4 weeks since Newtown. How long till gun lovers see sense?
 
Tyrants have killed close to 300 million people in the last 100 years, people who thought govt was there to protect them, and people who could not protect themselves. How long until anti gun crazies start studying history?


Manc Skipper said:
900 Americans have died in gun violence in the 4 weeks since Newtown. How long till gun lovers see sense?
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Manc Skipper said:
900 Americans have died in gun violence in the 4 weeks since Newtown. How long till gun lovers see sense?
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But of course your question is a frame, a set up. What you and the fuzzy thinking anti-gun set are proposing is far from "sense".

Of those 900 Americans deaths, how many were as a result of criminals using an illegally possessed weapon? That should indicate to you just how much "sense" your proposals make.
 
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