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    Re: W.H. Releases Letters from Little Kids Pleading for Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    It is insulting and it is transparent. But it is this sort of propaganda the left uses. Perhaps it's time for conservatives to use the same emotional appeals, turned back on the left. "Look, here's a news story of a 12 year old girl that shot an intruder in her house. Why do you want the little girl to get raped and die?"

    I've already seen a lot of these floating around this morning due to the plans to use the children...

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    Even before such pictures as those, there are people including teens in high school that have T-shirts with Obama's picture on one side and Hitler's picture on the other.

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    Re: W.H. Releases Letters from Little Kids Pleading for Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    because they have a legitimate perspective to offer


    if you will recall, it was a score of their own cohort who died recently at the hands of a gun weilder
    Alright, if we're interested in adding legitimate perspectives, then why not them all?
    Why choose, just children who happen to support his position?

    Adults died as well.
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    Re: W.H. Releases Letters from Little Kids Pleading for Gun Control

    The children seem to run the majority of American homes these days instead of their parents, so why not let them run the White House and Congress as well? Right?

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    Re: W.H. Releases Letters from Little Kids Pleading for Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Alright, if we're interested in adding legitimate perspectives, then why not all them all?
    Why choose, just children who happen to support his position?

    Adults died as well.
    you are on a frigging debate site
    figure it out
    we all trot out the facts and figure and perspectives that are going to help us make our position stronger
    why would you expect Obama to offer cites that undermine the position he is advocating
    that would be stupid and contrary to purpose
    and only stupid people would expect such response
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    Re: W.H. Releases Letters from Little Kids Pleading for Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you are on a frigging debate site
    figure it out
    we all trot out the facts and figure and perspectives that are going to help us make our position stronger
    why would you expect Obama to offer cites that undermine the position he is advocating
    that would be stupid and contrary to purpose
    and only stupid people would expect such response
    So you admit, that it's really not about the kids perspective, but that he's merely hamming it up.
    So that he can get more support.

    So with all that, should we draft laws, using the opinions of children, rather than logical thought, measured effect or some other way that would make things work better?
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    Re: W.H. Releases Letters from Little Kids Pleading for Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    reich wing whine because Obama brought something to the debate which helps make his case
    He neglected to bring any of the millions of kids that were brought up around guns, taught use and safety, that understand bad people do bad things and punishing law abiding citizens for the actions of a few bad people is not right.

    So yes, he is using children for political gain. Just as he's using the blood of those that died in the CT shooting for political gain.
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    Re: W.H. Releases Letters from Little Kids Pleading for Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    So you admit, that it's really not about the kids perspective, but that he's merely hamming it up.
    So that he can get more support.
    if he didn't do such things he should be impeached for incompetence
    of course he is going to bring to the debate perspectives that are going to advance his position

    are you hamming it up by presenting your position in extant matter? or are you engaging in a debate on the issues

    So with all that, should we draft laws, using the opinions of children, rather than logical thought, measured effect or some other way that would make things work better?
    it does not hurt to be exposed to the perspective of children
    and if they offer valued insights then we factor that into our decision making
    if their perspective offers nothing, then it does not advance the debate

    seems you want to argue that it should be discounted without being heard, which is saying you would prefer to operate in an ignorant vacuum
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    Re: W.H. Releases Letters from Little Kids Pleading for Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    what does that have to do with gun control?












    nothing. probably why the white house did not include it
    It has everything to do with the reasoning prowess of children.

    Doesn't take a whole lot to figure THAT out.
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    Re: W.H. Releases Letters from Little Kids Pleading for Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if he didn't do such things he should be impeached for incompetence
    of course he is going to bring to the debate perspectives that are going to advance his position

    are you hamming it up by presenting your position in extant matter? or are you engaging in a debate on the issues
    He should be impeached for not using unethical methods of getting support?
    We're debating, he is not.

    There is no debate, he's gets all the airtime, there is no one else saying, "hey, you're wrong."
    He gets the entire time to present his point on television, congress does but on the back channels no one watches.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it does not hurt to be exposed to the perspective of children
    and if they offer valued insights then we factor that into our decision making
    if their perspective offers nothing, then it does not advance the debate

    seems you want to argue that it should be discounted without being heard, which is saying you would prefer to operate in an ignorant vacuum
    No, we aren't exposed to the perspective of all children though.
    That's the issue here.
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    Re: W.H. Releases Letters from Little Kids Pleading for Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    love reading all the objections

    by the faux news watchers whose collective political IQ is substantially lower than that of the kids who sent the letters

    as if a youngster can't have a sound opinion because they are young while an adult's opinion must be found legitimate only because they are older


    the reich wing is pissed
    they have no where to hide on the gun issue
    they want instead to tell us how awful bats and guns are
    they see Gabby has become the face of the gun control advocacy and have no counter to her
    and they know that restrictions are coming and they can do nothing to stop them
    It doesn't bother you that they're using little kids to further their agenda?

    This reminds me of the time that the Jehovah Witnesses in my area sent their children up to the door to spread the word while the adults waited on the street. It's pathetic.

    ...and it's called Fox News. Studies show it's viewers are as informed as viewers of any mainstream news while those who watch the O'Reilly show tend to be more informed.
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