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    Re: DOMA: House Republicans Poised To Spend $3 Million On Legal Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    W(h)ere are the compassionate liberals when Pres Obama orders drone strikes? We could play this game all day long.
    nice deflection.
    It was just a matter of time. BTW, you are off topic

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    Re: DOMA: House Republicans Poised To Spend $3 Million On Legal Defense

    Still waiting for an answer. Anyone??

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    Re: DOMA: House Republicans Poised To Spend $3 Million On Legal Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    No, Republicans are. Big difference. As are "compassionate" liberals and the whole lot of them up there on Capital Hill.
    The No True Scotsman rears his ugly head.

    Meanwhile, conservative policies keep failing and keep demonstrating the intellectual bankruptcy of this woebegotten movement. And the OP lists another one.

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    Re: DOMA: House Republicans Poised To Spend $3 Million On Legal Defense

    Like it or not DOMA is the law of the land. Congress has a duty to defend or change that law.

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    Re: DOMA: House Republicans Poised To Spend $3 Million On Legal Defense

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    DOMA: House Republicans Poised To Spend $3 Million On Legal Defense



    This is the excuse that we'll get in this thread.
    "It's only a drop in the bucket compared to what Obama has done"


    conservatives, i thought you were all CUT, CUT, CUT!!!


    WASHINGTON -- House Republican leaders have signed on to spend up to $3 million to keep defending the Defense of Marriage Act in court, according to a copy of their newly revised legal contract obtained by The Huffington Post.
    House Republican leaders took over the legal defense of DOMA in the spring of 2011, when Attorney General Eric Holder announced the Obama administration would no longer defend it on the grounds that they found it unconstitutional. House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and other GOP leaders hired attorneys at the law firm Bancroft LLC to represent the House in court cases involving the federal ban on gay marriage -- all with taxpayer dollars.
    On Jan. 4, Rep. Candice Miller (R-Mich.), who chairs the House Administration Committee, signed a revised contract with Bancroft LLC that increases the spending cap to $3 million to allow Bancroft attorneys to keep defending DOMA in various court cases. The revised contract also bears the signatures of Bancroft partner Paul Clement and Kerry Kircher, general counsel for the House of Representatives.
    Well neither "liberal" nor "conservative" is interested in proper spending nor proper government, so not surprised. What I do find surprising is essentially DOMA amended the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution without actually amending the Constitution and there seems to be very few who care.
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    Re: DOMA: House Republicans Poised To Spend $3 Million On Legal Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Like it or not DOMA is the law of the land. Congress has a duty to defend or change that law.
    An excellent point. What many fail to realize, whether they agree or disagree with DOMA, is that it is the law. Therefore, our gov't has the right to defend said law. Whether we agree with it or not. By allowing Pres Obama to essentially forego the law, we are allowing him to do what he wants with legislation passed by our gov't under previous administrations. I'm sure this has happened under a Republican POTUS as well, but that doesn't make it right. The proper thing to do would be to wait on DOMA to be repealed. I don't see that happening anytime soon honestly.
    BTW, while the finger point is occurring, how much money did the Eric Holder spend defending himself for Fast and Furious? The entire premise of the OP is ridiculous and that was the point of my reference to Pres Obama and drones. People such as the individual who started this thread and HOJ can point the finger all they want. The finger can be pointed right back and most likely point at something ever larger the other side has done. No one in our gov't is innocent of all wrong doing, as are none of us posting here. The finger pointing crap generally does not generate anything but people being on the defensive about "their guy". In this case, Pres Obama.
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    Re: DOMA: House Republicans Poised To Spend $3 Million On Legal Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    An excellent point. What many fail to realize, whether they agree or disagree with DOMA, is that it is the law. Therefore, our gov't has the right to defend said law. Whether we agree with it or not. By allowing Pres Obama to essentially forego the law, we are allowing him to do what he wants with legislation passed by our gov't under previous administrations. I'm sure this has happened under a Republican POTUS as well, but that doesn't make it right. The proper thing to do would be to wait on DOMA to be repealed. I don't see that happening anytime soon honestly.
    BTW, while the finger point is occurring, how much money did the Eric Holder spend defending himself for Fast and Furious? The entire premise of the OP is ridiculous and that was the point of my reference to Pres Obama and drones. People such as the individual who started this thread and HOJ can point the finger all they want. The finger can be pointed right back and most likely point at something ever larger the other side has done. No one in our gov't is innocent of all wrong doing, as are none of us posting here. The finger pointing crap generally does not generate anything but people being on the defensive about "their guy". In this case, Pres Obama.
    Obama has not "forgone" the law. It is still enforced. Not defending a law in court is not something unusual for a president to do with a clearly unconstitutional law. I would have to look up list again to list all the recent presidents who have done it, but I know Bush did it, and correctly.
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    Re: DOMA: House Republicans Poised To Spend $3 Million On Legal Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Obama has not "forgone" the law. It is still enforced. Not defending a law in court is not something unusual for a president to do with a clearly unconstitutional law. I would have to look up list again to list all the recent presidents who have done it, but I know Bush did it, and correctly.
    I don't agree with that though, and that's my point. Our entire gov't system is built so that one man cannot rule. When Presidents are allowed to do what Pres Obama is doing and past President's have done, it is totally against the entire premise of our system. The proper way to do it is have the SCOTUS rule it unconstitutional or the Congress repeal it. Yes, it takes longer to do. And yes, DOMA is unconstitutional. But it's the right way to do it. The American people elected idiots into power that did this. They need to elect people that will undo it.
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    Re: DOMA: House Republicans Poised To Spend $3 Million On Legal Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I don't agree with that though, and that's my point. Our entire gov't system is built so that one man cannot rule. When Presidents are allowed to do what Pres Obama is doing and past President's have done, it is totally against the entire premise of our system. The proper way to do it is have the SCOTUS rule it unconstitutional or the Congress repeal it. Yes, it takes longer to do. And yes, DOMA is unconstitutional. But it's the right way to do it. The American people elected idiots into power that did this. They need to elect people that will undo it.
    It is not that unusual for a federal law being challenged to illicit amicus briefs from different people and parts of the government to offer opinions for the SCOTUS to consider in addition to the briefs submitted by/arguments made by the actual parties to the case. I think they generally invite those from the WH/Congress actually whenever any federal law is at issue. Some of the most brilliant writing I have read has come from those briefs, especially when you have ones filed on behalf of most of the Attorneys General in the nation who have a vested interest in the outcome of the case even if they are not a direct party to it.

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    Re: DOMA: House Republicans Poised To Spend $3 Million On Legal Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I don't agree with that though, and that's my point. Our entire gov't system is built so that one man cannot rule. When Presidents are allowed to do what Pres Obama is doing and past President's have done, it is totally against the entire premise of our system. The proper way to do it is have the SCOTUS rule it unconstitutional or the Congress repeal it. Yes, it takes longer to do. And yes, DOMA is unconstitutional. But it's the right way to do it. The American people elected idiots into power that did this. They need to elect people that will undo it.
    SCOTUS is going to rule on it, this year. The law is in effect until then. There is nothing inappropriate in How the process is being handled.
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