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    Re: Texas Proposal: JAIL Any Federal Officials Trying to Enforce New Gun Restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    What's wonderfully interesting is how conservatism has shown its true ugly unpatriotic face. Conservatives simply don't like our democratic government and the rule of law, and want to destroy it.
    How about if a hard-core right wing conservative had been elected president who enacted a New Speech Restriction which made it illegal to publicly discuss or promote socialism because it is a threat to Capitalism?

    If you publicly attack it as an assault on your freedom of speech, would you then be guilty of showing your "true ugly unpatriotic face"?

    Would you also be guilty of "not liking our democratic government and the rule of law, and wanting to destroy it"?

    Or would you simply accept it as one small restriction on your First Amendment Rights and feel secure that no new Speech Restrictions would ever become law again?

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    Re: Texas Proposal: JAIL Any Federal Officials Trying to Enforce New Gun Restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    You have no constituional right to own an automatic weapon capable of firing 30 rounds with one pull of the trigger. You have no constitutional right to own a semi-automatic weapon, capable of murdering 20 young children without the necessity of reloading. You have no constitutional right to walk into a gun show in Virginia and buy whatever instrument of death you choose without any background check.

    If those are the 'rights' you choose to protect, then I go with the Federal Government.
    Yes I do have the right to do excactly that, and own what I wish to own. It is explicitly stated in the 2nd that the right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. I can read. Its NOT my problem if some brain dead black robed twits CANT. It does not say except for this, or except for that. There are ABSOLUTELY NO EXCEPTIONS. I can own and use what I damned well please. The Constitution is a contract that grants me these rights, and I and others intend to enforce the contract. I am tired of people who think they can tell me what I can or cant do in DIRECT VIOLATION of their contractual obligations. I am tired of people who use the government to bludgen people into doing what they want them to in direct violation of the societal contract. The people who think they can run roughshoud over my rights are gona find themselves fighting in every Congress building, in every excutive mansion, in every court room, in every newspaper, in every blog, in every corporate boardroom, and everywhere else. Those who would take my freedoms, those who would take my familiy and friends freedoms, and make NO mistake that is excactly what you and yours are doing, will be fought on the soapbox, the ballot box, the jury box, and if nessesary with the ammo box. I have EARNED MY FREEDOMS and I will NOT let them violated further without challenge. There will be NO MORE compromise. The line is being drawn in the sand. No Mass. No More. Further violation of the contract will NOT be tolerated. You want to take my rights, your gona have to pay for them and they aint cheap. Quite frankly you and yours cant afford them.
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    Re: Texas Proposal: JAIL Any Federal Officials Trying to Enforce New Gun Restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    I'd be delighted if all of you guys moved to Texas.
    Amen, this guy is just grandstanding, etc., etc., etc. Now, if someone would shoot a family member of his, this dude will most likely change his tune depending on how slavish he is. There is some other Texas dude who wants to impeach the President because of his gun views?! This thing is getting silly and out of hand. Look, New York just passed a gun law which does NOT take away the gun from any responsible gun owner. As a NRA member what they did is reasonable. But as predicted the NRA hardliners and the gun industry protested because it would impact their profits.

    You know, there was once a time when the NRA was in favor of some gun control! But not with the current hard line leadership.

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    Re: Texas Proposal: JAIL Any Federal Officials Trying to Enforce New Gun Restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    What's wonderfully interesting is how conservatism has shown its true ugly unpatriotic face. Conservatives simply don't like our democratic government and the rule of law, and want to destroy it.
    That's funny .....anytime Conservatism stands up for the Country. The progressives immediately come out trying to demean the Right while trying to ignore that fact of who is Always Looking to get around Constitutional Law and who ALWAYS looks to SCAM the LAW or Make Money off the Law.

    Course you might want to remind the Demo Underground that their same old tactics just wont work in the 22nd Century.

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    Re: Texas Proposal: JAIL Any Federal Officials Trying to Enforce New Gun Restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    If they pass this, that's gonna clinch it... I'm buying a Stetson hat and moving to Texas.
    I'm already a Citizen of Texas. But my hat is a Wrangler, not a Stetson. Says Made In Texas on the band, that is one reason I bought it.

    Something that I do now and would recommend for others to do is I do not buy products that are manufactured or come from Liberal leaning states. I will buy imported before buying Liberal. Does it have any real affect? No, not if I am the only one doing it. But enough people start, then things might can change.
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    Re: Texas Proposal: JAIL Any Federal Officials Trying to Enforce New Gun Restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You qualified that statement with "like Texas". If you meant any state and without relevant considerations, then that qualification is nonsense.
    Tbh with you I'm still not sure what you mean. I don't want to make assumptions.

    I simply think that it's good for states to stand up to the government if it gets too big and powerful. State's rights iirc were a counter-measure against tyranny by an increasingly-oppressive government.

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    Re: Texas Proposal: JAIL Any Federal Officials Trying to Enforce New Gun Restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    That's funny .....anytime Conservatism stands up for the Country. The progressives immediately come out trying to demean the Right while trying to ignore that fact of who is Always Looking to get around Constitutional Law and who ALWAYS looks to SCAM the LAW or Make Money off the Law.

    Course you might want to remind the Demo Underground that their same old tactics just wont work in the 22nd Century.
    Threatening the rule of law is now "standing up for the country".

    This is why nobody takes conservatism seriously. Words mean nothing to conservatives.

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    Re: Texas Proposal: JAIL Any Federal Officials Trying to Enforce New Gun Restrictions

    That is just political grandstanding.

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    Re: Texas Proposal: JAIL Any Federal Officials Trying to Enforce New Gun Restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Words mean nothing to conservatives.
    You're using the logical fallacy of not qualifiying your statements. In reality, words may mean nothing to a few conservatives.

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    Re: Texas Proposal: JAIL Any Federal Officials Trying to Enforce New Gun Restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Threatening the rule of law is now "standing up for the country".

    This is why nobody takes conservatism seriously. Words mean nothing to conservatives.
    Nah, not at all that's due to Progressives having problems with Definitions.

    Or are you saying Texas doesn't have it's Sovereign Government?

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