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    Re: Judge finds Riverside boy responsible for killing neo-Nazi father

    Its entirely possible he was taught that killing people is acceptable behavior by the very person he shot.

    If so, make sure the kid understands his father was an idiot and chalk it up under "Thats what you get."

    A ten year olds "reality" isn't the same as an adults. He may have known it was wrong, but not HOW wrong, for example.
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    Re: Judge finds Riverside boy responsible for killing neo-Nazi father

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    But the greatest factor is still that he is ten.
    No, the greatest factor is that he apparently murdered another human being in cold blood. Ten is plenty old enough to understand right from wrong, and especially to understand that killing is wrong.

    From reading the article linked in the OP, I see that this boy has a history of violent behavior, including at least one attempt to kill one of his teachers. I also see that he apparently comes from a very abusive home. I don't see anything to suggest that I or any of the rest of us on this forum are in a better position than the judge presiding over this case to determine what is to be done with this boy. I do hope that some serious attempt is made at rehabilitating him, but I'm not optimistic about the success of any such effort. I hate to think what this boy will go on to do after he's released.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    He was 10 years old.............. 10....
    If he's this evil and violent at ten (or even younger—apparently, he has a history of violent behavior going back to the age of three) what is he going to be like as an adult?
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    Re: Judge finds Riverside boy responsible for killing neo-Nazi father

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    If he's this evil and violent at ten (or even younger—apparently, he has a history of violent behavior going back to the age of three) what is he going to be like as an adult?
    He is 10. Just learned how to read. When i was 10 i was a hyper little pain in the ass, never listen to my parents, guess what i changed.


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    Re: Judge finds Riverside boy responsible for killing neo-Nazi father

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    He was 10 years old.............. 10....
    So, it wasn't like he was given the death penalty. If you let a 10 year old get away with murder, what kind of 20 year old are you creating? He needs to be punished.

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    Re: Judge finds Riverside boy responsible for killing neo-Nazi father

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    So, it wasn't like he was given the death penalty. If you let a 10 year old get away with murder, what kind of 20 year old are you creating? He needs to be punished.
    What kind of 23 year old are you creating that spent more than half of his life in jail? You're turning an angry and abused kid into an even angrier and abused adult.
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    Re: Judge finds Riverside boy responsible for killing neo-Nazi father

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    No, the greatest factor is that he apparently murdered another human being in cold blood. Ten is plenty old enough to understand right from wrong, and especially to understand that killing is wrong.

    From reading the article linked in the OP, I see that this boy has a history of violent behavior, including at least one attempt to kill one of his teachers. I also see that he apparently comes from a very abusive home. I don't see anything to suggest that I or any of the rest of us on this forum are in a better position than the judge presiding over this case to determine what is to be done with this boy. I do hope that some serious attempt is made at rehabilitating him, but I'm not optimistic about the success of any such effort. I hate to think what this boy will go on to do after he's released.




    If he's this evil and violent at ten (or even younger—apparently, he has a history of violent behavior going back to the age of three) what is he going to be like as an adult?
    Bob Blaylock saying ten is an old enough age to discern right from wrong, to comprehend the consequences of actions on a long term scale (a critical factor in youth cognition and juvenile justice), and to have the emotional maturity to have arrived at the course of action absent extenuating influences is really a ringing endorsement. Numerous neuroscientists, some might say the bulk at this point have come to the conclusion that our age for criminal responsibility is absurdly low given what we know about the brains of children (not youths, children).

    None of this even begins to touch on the counter-productive approach we have to crime and societally damaging behavior which stresses despite mounting contradictory evidence that punishment will achieve the desired rehabilitative, corrective, and preventative results. It doesn't.

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    Re: Judge finds Riverside boy responsible for killing neo-Nazi father

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    What kind of 23 year old are you creating that spent more than half of his life in jail? You're turning an angry and abused kid into an even angrier and abused adult.
    Who will have had 10 fewer years of victims of his anger. So be it. I'd give him the max. You apparently would give him a hug. Lucky for somebody that neither one of us is the Judge, it is just a matter of who that someone is.

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    Re: Judge finds Riverside boy responsible for killing neo-Nazi father

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Who will have had 10 fewer years of victims of his anger. So be it. I'd give him the max. You apparently would give him a hug. Lucky for somebody that neither one of us is the Judge, it is just a matter of who that someone is.
    I'm totally for personal responsibility and people suffering the consequences of their actions. But we're talking about a 10 year old kid. Someone we've all deemed to be too mentally incapable to drink, vote, or drive.
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    Re: Judge finds Riverside boy responsible for killing neo-Nazi father

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    So what do you think? I think this no way justifies this kids acts but i dont believe he should be held in custody until he is 23. He was only 10 years old. I believe he should see a psychiatrist, and go through counselling, but should also be at home with his mother. I strongly believe hate only breeds hate and actions like this are consequences of that hate.
    Since all they found him guilty of was a weapons charge, according to the OP, the judge (jury?) obviously felt there were extenuating circumstances that may have driven this boy to do what he did. I'm confident the sentence that's eventually handed down will reflect that. A 10-year-old boy surrounded by hate doesn't have the emotional maturity to deal with it the same way an adult would. He apparently did the only thing he thought he could. I have sympathy. (With the facts presented)
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    Re: Judge finds Riverside boy responsible for killing neo-Nazi father

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I'm totally for personal responsibility and people suffering the consequences of their actions. But we're talking about a 10 year old kid. Someone we've all deemed to be too mentally incapable to drink, vote, or drive.
    Well he isn't 10 anymore. I get you feeling sympathy for him and all that, but if that were my kid, I really wouldn't want them back in my house. If the victim had been an elderly grandmother who nodded off while knitting, I suspect a lot of folks' analysis would be different--mine would not be. Once they pull that trigger, the game changes and the court who heard the evidence already decided the kid knew right from wrong.

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