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Thread: New Health Rankings: Of 17 Nations, U.S. Is Dead Last

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    We also have a much higher population than those "developed" countries as well. The only nation on the list that even comes close to matching ours is Japan, and they're short about 200 million. Makes a pretty huge difference, since higher numbers of people will mean that we have a higher number of crimes and health issues than nations with a vastly smaller population.
    Um... aren't the figures adjusted for population?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    the deathby violence doesnt seem right,last time i checked australia had a higher ratio than us,but then again the chart uses an outdated chart for its comparison.
    No, we have a higher rate of non-fatal violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep. Chalk one up for efficiency/automation. It takes less workers, less time to make more things. All the unions and protectionism in the world will not change that.
    The purposes of unions -- and in extreme cases, protectionism -- are not to prevent productivity gains, but to be sure that the costs that come with them are shared as equitably as tne benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    If you or some one else is obese its none of my concern. I dont see were it would be the concern of government or society at large. Or for that matter why anybody would care except maybe the person who is obese or their familiy. I have been obese I have been athletically built at differnt points in my life.
    I don't agree with you: I feel concerned about people with obesity problems. Especially if they start having mobility or other problems ...

    In fact, I feel concern for people in general. Their well being is my well being to some extent. I live in a society, not next to it.

    Concern for the well being of others is the fondation of society. Concern for your children, concern for your parents, concern for your family, concern for your neighboors, concern for the old lady who lives all alone on the other side of the street etc. Concern for your fellow citizens. Concern for sick people. And from a certain stadium, obesity is a sickness or causes other sicknesses: heart diseases, cholesterol, problems with the back or the knees, or both, uterus bleeding etc.

    Charities and insurances are based on this feeling of concern for others. In charities, resources are pooled together in order to fund research in a certain area - Can be cancer or any other deadly illness. If you fund a charity fighting heart deceases, you'll support programs teaching people how to lower the risk of heart disease including programs fighting obesity.... In insurances, resources are also pooled together to pay for the very high costs of particular illnesses. The less people will get ill, the more resources the insurances will have. It des not matter whether it's a private or a public insurance: they all work according to the same principles.

    You can of course live like a bear in your cavern but most people don't

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We will have to eventually upgrade to single payer plan as the rest of the industrialized world has done, people will not continue to support the worst outcomes for the highest cost.
    Wanna bet? Some of us most definitely will defend the current system to the death (most likely our own).

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Im not going to take this one study as gospel...I would have to see figures from other organizations
    What has been holding you back? Reports of the dismal standing of the US health care system in comparison to those in other major economies are stacked up to the ceiling. We have been paying the most while receiving nearly the least, and the situation has been getting wrose, not better. That has been the message from everywhere...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Wanna bet? Some of us most definitely will defend the current system to the death (most likely our own).
    So the logical thing then is to die from a treatable disease rather than be cured by a doctor who takes Medicare?

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    The ususal suspects on this board have latched on to these figures as evidence for single payer or socialized medicine. Yet with the possible exception of the last item, none of the other factors would be impacted by a change in our health care delivery system one bit. But then again, liberals are not known for letting facts get in the way of their agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    So the logical thing then is to die from a treatable disease rather than be cured by a doctor who takes Medicare?
    In my mind, YES. I will not take a single penny worth of Government Medical Care. It's that simple. It's actually written into my living will.

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    In Australia we basically have a two tier system. We all pay into the "free health" scheme but if we want to go private we can. It is the best of both worlds. You don't have to be rich to use the private system. A family cover can cost you around $50.00 per week and a single person can obtain cover for around $25 per week. I don't have to worry about going broke to pay my medical bills ever. I don't have to worry that if i get sick, my Insurance Company will decide they don't want to pay my claim. I choose the level of cover i want and pay the appropriate premium for the level of cover selected. The choice is mine. Not the health funds.

    Coming from a Country that has a working UHC scheme, i don't understand such anger and animosity at the thought of the government having some control over your health care. It's not like what you have now is working or anything special. While you are so hell bent on shouting down the public option, all you are doing is lobbying to keep pouring money into the pockets of insurance companies who have been the ones rationing healthcare as you see it today. The health insurance companies do not care about you, if they did they would not focus so much of their time trying to get out of paying claims and compromising yours and your families health while premiums keep increasing.

    At the end of the day, it's really not much good having some of the best health care facilities and Doctors in the world (which the US do), if people don't have access to it in a timely and afforable manner.

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