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Thread: New Health Rankings: Of 17 Nations, U.S. Is Dead Last

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    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    You don't understand the term apparently. Nothing new here.
    Oh, I understand that you cannot answer the question...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Oh, I understand that you cannot answer the question...
    The question made no sense, since you don't understand the terminology. Use google. It will help you look not as bad as you usually do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Deaths from all causes does not equate with how well a nation's health system is run.

    American healthcare workers receive more education than any others in the world (from what I see). Healthcare is expensive, but the quality and innovation is higher in America.
    But it's rationed by income with the rich getting the lion's share resulting in bad PUBLIC health outcomes. And PUBLIC health is the criterion, not the fact that medical miracles are available to some billionaire.

    That's our model and it's failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    The question made no sense, since you don't understand the terminology. Use google. It will help you look not as bad as you usually do.
    The question makes perfect sense in relation to what you posted. If you feel I misunderstood, explain your reasoning...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: We're Number......LAST

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    But it's rationed by income with the rich getting the lion's share resulting in bad PUBLIC health outcomes. And PUBLIC health is the criterion, not the fact that medical miracles are available to some billionaire.

    That's our model and it's failed.
    Any solid proof? From what I see those on Medicaid get the best care. The middle class or rich guy on their insurance plan will have to pay $50-$300 for an expensive medication while the Medicaid individual pays $0 and has no insurance premiums or bills. I know many in the middle class that refused care because of the cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    The question makes perfect sense in relation to what you posted. If you feel I misunderstood, explain your reasoning...
    Look up pay for service versus capitation or the european model (which isn't pay for service). Then report back in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Any solid proof? From what I see those on Medicaid get the best care. The middle class or rich guy on their insurance plan will have to pay $50-$300 for an expensive medication while the Medicaid individual pays $0 and has no insurance premiums or bills. I know many in the middle class that refused care because of the cost.
    Yeah, the problem is only a portion of our population is on Medicare. We need it for everybody -- i.e. the European model.

    So if you're not rich or 65 years old, you're in trouble. That's why our system is the most expensive in the world but with execrable health outcomes. If that isn't proof, I don't know what is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Look up pay for service versus capitation or the european model (which isn't pay for service). Then report back in.
    Someone always ends up paying, which is the point. I'm sorry you're having difficulty with this concept...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
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    Re: We're Number......LAST

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Any solid proof? From what I see those on Medicaid get the best care. The middle class or rich guy on their insurance plan will have to pay $50-$300 for an expensive medication while the Medicaid individual pays $0 and has no insurance premiums or bills. I know many in the middle class that refused care because of the cost.
    Digsbe, I thought you were for universal health care? That was one of the things I respected about you the most!
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    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    The question made no sense, since you don't understand the terminology. Use google. It will help you look not as bad as you usually do.

    Hey Alabama Paul............

    Just logged in and saw this.........

    Don't you ever tire of embarrassing people with the facts?

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