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    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Each time Health care has been tried to be upgraded some politician says that's Communism or Socialism and American health care gets passed to the next generation like a bum passing the last draw of a smoke.

    For health care to be upgraded or even addressed you will need more of an Independent political process.
    We are getting there! It will be even better after 2014.
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    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    That is my wish as well my friend, but how far down must Americans go before that point is reached.
    I think 2014 will be the turning point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Well, first of all I think you have me confused with some party line walker , not true Independent voter and proud of it.
    As far as Obamacare or as I liked to call it INSURANCE AD, true it is a bad plan.

    As far as all the previous folks insured will remember that they paid less and were happier with premiums they had.
    The previous folks had jobs paying a decent wage , keyword here HAD.

    So if your job gets outsourced your insurance will either be cheaper or go on hold to meet your basic needs.

    Too much , check the amount of houses reposessed lately.
    Check the more people applying for medicare and medicade
    Check the credit card debt in America.
    No I understand. Just saying that for the large majority (and it was a large majority) that were insured, were not to the place yet where they wanted to rebel against the system, wanted something different. And now, we'll never know if they would have, because the problems from here on will be blamed on Obamacare.

    And I agree of course. Obamacare==bad news. But then Obamacare is not UHC.

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    Re: We're Number......LAST

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We are getting there! It will be even better after 2014.
    I have always been an optomistic person you know that Cat.

    However even Idolistic dreamers have their bad days, and I must say these are it for me.

    It's not this party or that party it's not the way politics are done.
    I fear it's the whole DAMN SYSTEM that is failing Americans as well as Americans themselves are getting wrapped up in the same crap :no need for me to take care of anything the next generation can pay off my debts, the next generation can find Alternative fuel , the next generation can get people working again, the next generation and the next and the next...ect,ect
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I think 2014 will be the turning point.
    I hope so..
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    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    I have always been an optomistic person you know that Cat.

    However even Idolistic dreamers have their bad days, and I must say these are it for me.

    It's not this party or that party it's not the way politics are done.
    I fear it's the whole DAMN SYSTEM that is failing Americans as well as Americans themselves are getting wrapped up in the same crap :no need for me to take care of anything the next generation can pay off my debts, the next generation can find Alternative fuel , the next generation can get people working again, the next generation and the next and the next...ect,ect
    Societal evolution is a very slow process my friend. Don't lose your optimism!
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    How much do illegal immigrants contribute to those numbers?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    I have always been an optomistic person you know that Cat.

    However even Idolistic dreamers have their bad days, and I must say these are it for me.

    It's not this party or that party it's not the way politics are done.
    I fear it's the whole DAMN SYSTEM that is failing Americans as well as Americans themselves are getting wrapped up in the same crap :no need for me to take care of anything the next generation can pay off my debts, the next generation can find Alternative fuel , the next generation can get people working again, the next generation and the next and the next...ect,ect
    That's a by-product of Liberalism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No I understand. Just saying that for the large majority (and it was a large majority) that were insured, were not to the place yet where they wanted to rebel against the system, wanted something different. And now, we'll never know if they would have, because the problems from here on will be blamed on Obamacare.

    And I agree of course. Obamacare==bad news. But then Obamacare is not UHC.
    A majority of who.
    The majority of people living in America are unskilled workers unskilled work is being outsourced
    America posted the creation of 700,000 new jobs
    We have amnesty for 800,000 illegal immigrants.
    Do the math?
    Who is the majority and who is the minority in America ?
    Hint think 10%,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Societal evolution is a very slow process my friend. Don't lose your optimism!
    I will agree it has been slow but not as slow as the past 12 years.
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